Wikipedy:Oerlisside/Argyf17
Dit is in argyfside.
Pas de tekst op dizze side net mear oan.
Wikipedy:Oerlisside/Argyf17, argyf fan Wikipedy:Oerlisside:
- Oerlis begûn fan 9 novimber 2015 oant en mei 31 desimber 2017.
Community Wishlist Survey
[boarne bewurkje]Hi everyone! Apologies for posting in English. Translations are very welcome.
The Community Tech team at the Wikimedia Foundation is focused on building improved curation and moderation tools for experienced Wikimedia contributors. We're now starting a Community Wishlist Survey to find the most useful projects that we can work on.
For phase 1 of the survey, we're inviting all active contributors to submit brief proposals, explaining the project that you'd like us to work on, and why it's important. Phase 1 will last for 2 weeks. In phase 2, we'll ask you to vote on the proposals. Afterwards, we'll analyze the top 10 proposals and create a prioritized wishlist.
While most of this process will be conducted in English, we're inviting people from any Wikimedia wiki to submit proposals. We'll also invite volunteer translators to help translate proposals into English.
Your proposal should include: the problem that you want to solve, who would benefit, and a proposed solution, if you have one. You can submit your proposal on the Community Wishlist Survey page, using the entry field and the big blue button. We will be accepting proposals for 2 weeks, ending on November 23.
We're looking forward to hearing your ideas!
Wikimania 2016 scholarships ambassadors needed
[boarne bewurkje]Hello! Wikimania 2016 scholarships will soon be open; by the end of the week we'll form the committee and we need your help, see Scholarship committee for details.
If you want to carefully review nearly a thousand applications in January, you might be a perfect committee member. Otherwise, you can volunteer as "ambassador": you will observe all the committee activities, ensure that people from your language or project manage to apply for a scholarship, translate scholarship applications written in your language to English and so on. Ambassadors are allowed to ask for a scholarship, unlike committee members.
Wikimania 2016 scholarships subteam 10 nov 2015, 11.48 (CET)
Wikiproject Erasmusprijswinnaars
[boarne bewurkje]Geachte mede-wikipedianen,
Excuus voor het Nederlands, maar als Limburger spreek ik weinig Fries.
Wikipedia heeft de Erasmusprijs 2015 gewonnen. Deze prijs wordt jaarlijks uitgereikt aan personen of instellingen die een uitzonderlijke bijdrage hebben geleverd aan cultuur, samenleving, of sociale wetenschappen. De koning van Nederland reikt op 25 november de prijs uit. Dit zal media aandacht en hopelijk nieuwe vrijwilligers opleveren. Voor de uitreiking willen we graag artikels over vorige winnaars van de Erasmusprijs schrijven en verbeteren. Alle 80 winnaars zouden voldoende relevant moeten zijn voor een artikel.
Doe ook mee met het project, en help ons om artikels te schrijven voor onze mede-laureaten.
Met vriendelijke groet, FrankTMeijer en Taketa (oerlis) 11 nov 2015, 07.09 (CET)
Harassment consultation
[boarne bewurkje]Please help translate to your language
The Community Advocacy team the Wikimedia Foundation has opened a consultation on the topic of harassment on Meta. The consultation period is intended to run for one month from today, November 16, and end on December 17. Please share your thoughts there on harassment-related issues facing our communities and potential solutions. (Note: this consultation is not intended to evaluate specific cases of harassment, but rather to discuss the problem of harassment itself.)
This is a message regarding the proposed 2015 Free Bassel banner. Translations are available.
Hi everyone,
This is to inform all Wikimedia contributors that a straw poll seeking your involvement has just been started on Meta-Wiki.
As some of your might be aware, a small group of Wikimedia volunteers have proposed a banner campaign informing Wikipedia readers about the urgent situation of our fellow Wikipedian, open source software developer and Creative Commons activist, Bassel Khartabil. An exemplary banner and an explanatory page have now been prepared, and translated into about half a dozen languages by volunteer translators.
We are seeking your involvement to decide if the global Wikimedia community approves starting a banner campaign asking Wikipedia readers to call on the Syrian government to release Bassel from prison. We understand that a campaign like this would be unprecedented in Wikipedia's history, which is why we're seeking the widest possible consensus among the community.
Given Bassel's urgent situation and the resulting tight schedule, we ask everyone to get involved with the poll and the discussion to the widest possible extent, and to promote it among your communities as soon as possible.
(Apologies for writing in English; please kindly translate this message into your own language.)
Thank you for your participation!
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery 21:47, 25 November 2015 (UTC) • Translate • Get help
Community Wishlist Survey
[boarne bewurkje]Hi everyone! Apologies for posting this in English. Translations are very welcome.
We're beginning the second part of the Community Tech team's Community Wishlist Survey, and we're inviting all active contributors to vote on the proposals that have been submitted.
Thanks to you and other Wikimedia contributors, 111 proposals were submitted to the team. We've split the proposals into categories, and now it's time to vote! You can vote for any proposal listed on the pages, using the {{Support}} tag. Feel free to add comments pro or con, but only support votes will be counted. The voting period will be 2 weeks, ending on December 14.
The proposals with the most support votes will be the team's top priority backlog to investigate and address. Thank you for participating, and we're looking forward to hearing what you think!
Community Tech via
MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 1 des 2015, 15.38 (CET)
Listen
[boarne bewurkje]Wêrom hjitte listen no "List fan ..."? Om't de titel seit wat de side beskriuwt wienen de listen dochs de meartallen:
List fan wetlik beskerme planten yn Nederlân beskriuwt dy list, wylst "Fryske doarpen" oer Fryske doarpen gie (yn list-foarm). Dat past by de wiki, om't it oars in gedoch is en skriuw in keppeling op "de measte doarpskranten yn Fryslân". Mysha (oerlis)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (December 2015)
[boarne bewurkje]Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for, free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
- Gale - multidisciplinary periodicals, newspapers, and reference sources - 10 accounts
- Brill - academic e-books and journals in English, Dutch, and other languages - 25 accounts
- Finnish Literature Society (in Finnish)
- Magiran (in Farsi) - scientific journal articles - 100 articles
- Civilica (in Farsi) - Iranian journal articles, seminars, and conferences - 50 accounts
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including EBSCO, DeGruyter, and Newspaperarchive.com. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 01:01, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- Help us a start Wikipedia Library in your language! Email us at wikipedialibrary@wikimedia.org
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation. Translations are available.
As many of you know, January 15 is Wikipedia’s 15th Birthday!
People around the world are getting involved in the celebration and have started adding their events on Meta Page. While we are celebrating Wikipedia's birthday, we hope that all projects and affiliates will be able to utilize this celebration to raise awareness of our community's efforts.
Haven’t started planning? Don’t worry, there’s lots of ways to get involved. Here are some ideas:
- Join/host an event. We already have more than 80, and hope to have many more.
- Talk to local press. In the past 15 years, Wikipedia has accomplished extraordinary things. We’ve made a handy summary of milestones and encourage you to add your own. More resources, including a press release template and resources on working with the media, are also available.
- Design a Wikipedia 15 logo. In place of a single icon for Wikipedia 15, we’re making dozens. Add your own with something fun and representative of your community. Just use the visual guide so they share a common sensibility.
- Share a message on social media. Tell the world what Wikipedia means to you, and add #wikipedia15 to the post. We might re-tweet or share your message!
Everything is linked on the Wikipedia 15 Meta page. You’ll find a set of ten data visualization works that you can show at your events, and a list of all the Wikipedia 15 logos that community members have already designed.
If you have any questions, please contact Zachary McCune or Joe Sutherland.
Thanks and Happy nearly Wikipedia 15!
-The Wikimedia Foundation Communications team
Posted by the MediaWiki message delivery, 18 des 2015, 21.58 (CET) • Please help translate to your language • Help
VisualEditor News #6—2015
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Since the last newsletter, the visual editor team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.
Recent improvements
[boarne bewurkje]You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. The LaTeX mathematics formula editor has been significantly expanded. (T118616) You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.
Future changes
[boarne bewurkje]The single edit tab project will combine the "Bewurkje" and "Boarne bewurkje" tabs into a single "Bewurkje" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398, T58337) Initially, the "Bewurkje" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the Bewurkjen tab of Special:Preferences in the drop-down menu about "Bewurkingsmodus:".
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.
In 2016, the feedback pages for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. (T92661)
Testing opportunities
[boarne bewurkje]- Please try the new system for the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
- De lêste tekstbewurker ûnthâlde,
- Altiten de fisuële bewurker jaan dêr’t it kin,
- Altiten de boarnebewurker jaan, and
- Beide bewurkerstabblêden sjen litte. (This is the current state for people already using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
- Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
Elitre (WMF), 25 des 2015, 01.06 (CET)
Wikimania 2016 Scholarships - Deadline soon!
[boarne bewurkje]- Please help translate to your language
A reminder - applications for scholarships for Wikimania 2016 in Esino Lario, Italy, are closing soon! Please get your applications in by January 9th. To apply, visit the page below:
Patrick Earley (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 5 jan 2016, 02.49 (CET)
2016 WMF Strategy consultation
[boarne bewurkje]- Please help translate to your language
Hello, all.
The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) has launched a consultation to help create and prioritize WMF strategy beginning July 2016 and for the 12 to 24 months thereafter. This consultation will be open, on Meta, from 18 January to 26 February, after which the Foundation will also use these ideas to help inform its Annual Plan. (More on our timeline can be found on that Meta page.)
Your input is welcome (and greatly desired) at the Meta discussion, 2016 Strategy/Community consultation.
Apologies for English, where this is posted on a non-English project. We thought it was more important to get the consultation translated as much as possible, and good headway has been made there in some languages. There is still much to do, however! We created m:2016 Strategy/Translations to try to help coordinate what needs translation and what progress is being made. :)
If you have questions, please reach out to me on my talk page or on the strategy consultation's talk page or by email to mdennis@wikimedia.org.
I hope you'll join us! Maggie Dennis via MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 18 jan 2016, 20.06 (CET)
Frisian is missing
[boarne bewurkje]Frisian is missing from this page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/There_is_also_a_Wikipedia_in_your_language
Thank you, Varlaam (oerlis) 20 jan 2016, 07.33 (CET)
- Thanks for the quick response.
- Canadians love the Netherlands! Varlaam (oerlis) 20 jan 2016, 16.44 (CET)
Nije stavering
[boarne bewurkje]Bêste minsken,
Ik sjoch dat it oanpassen fan de stavering hjir eins syn gerak net kriget. Dêrom fan myn kant - nei in jier net oan dizze wiky wurke te hawwen - noch ien kear myn beheind útstel:
- Wy beheine ferwizings fan de âlde stavering nei de nije ta in minimum. Dus gjin hûnderten kearen ieu nei iuw, mar in inkele kear.
- Dy pear ferwizings dogge wy sa:
Alde stavering Sûnt 2015 sa stavere Nije stavering
- Al dy oerstallige ferwizings romje wy geandewei op!
Mei freonlike groetnis, Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 27 jan 2016, 10.13 (CET)
- Hoi Yn'e wâlden, ik kom hjir op it heden net sa faak mear. Ik bin ek net sa thús yn de nije stavering. Ik leau dat er wat spul west hat oer dit mêd. Ik ha gjin beswier, mar lit de oaren harren hjir ek eefkes oer útlitten. Groetnis --Geoffrey (oerlis) 27 jan 2016, 20.57 (CET)
- Ik soe sizze dat dy ferwizings net oars binne as oare trochferwizings. Allinnich koe der by de nije stavering yn de tekst opnaam wurde dat de stavering foar 2015 oars wie. (Ik leau ik haw earder alles sein wat ik der fierders fan fyn.) Mar binne der dan werneamings dy't noch dien wurde moatten? Mysha (oerlis)
- Fansels soene jo ek yn it begjin fan alle omstavere wikyteksten opnimme kinne (Nije stavering 2015). As soks de oaren helpt om oer har skaad hinne te stappen, dan is dat miskien in goede tuskenoplossing. Wol bliuwt it oerstallich om hûnderten kearen fan ieu nei iuw te ferwizen. Betink wol dat soks der oer 8 oant 10 jier allegearre wer út moat. Ik haw oangeande de werneamings oant no ta om en de by 2 oant 3 persint fan de wikys bylâns west. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 31 jan 2016, 11.45 (CET)
- De measte minsken geane no stadichoan wol oer op de nije stavering. Ik sjoch it belang fan in ienriedige skriuwwize en ik stypje sa'n ienriedige skriuwwize. Mar foar my kin dy standert foar it Frysk ynearsten wol wat breder wêze. Seker yn dizze oergongstiid. Fansels is dy nije stavering al in feit, mar noch net alle minsken binne der oan wend. Jou se tiid. Nei ferrin fan tiid komme der jongeren fan skoalle dy't allinnich mar de nije stavering leard hawwe en folwoeksen minsken dy't in skriuwkursus dien hawwe. Op in bepaald momint wurde wurdsjes as 'ieu' as âldfrinzich field en dan miskien wol fuorthelle. Foar't it safier is wol ik de wikynocht fan aktive en tige belutsen Wikipedianen net bedjerre. Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 10.10 (CET)
- Ut it eachweid fan it ûnderwiis wei wol ik allinne mar pleitsje foar dúdlikens. Wy hawwe it oer om en de by 500 oantsjuttings. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 10.42 (CET)
- Dat is in goed stribjen. Stavering is in wichtich ûnderdiel fan goed taalgebrûk. Wy moatte ek safolle mooglik op dat goede taalgebrûk ta. En dat slagget neffens my bêst aardich. Dat komt ûnder oaren troch dyn aktive ynset foar dizze Wikipedy. Ik pas de nije stavering ta en der binne ek oare Wikipedianen dy't dat dogge. De trochferwizingen kinne wy om my noch wol eventsjes as helpmiddel brûke. Fansels kinne wy se geandewei fuorthelje, mar dan allinnich as se yrrelevant binne. Neffens my haw ik wolris begripen út de stavering fan foar 1980 as trochferwizing brûkt. Wat is der eins mis mei it brûken fan trochferwizingen? Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 11.28 (CET)
- As jo fan in Ingelsk begryp nei in Frysk begryp ferwize, is der neat mis mei. Ingelske wurden wurde hast altiten wol herkend. De synonimen dy't wy hjir trochferwize, is fansels ek neat mis mei. Nee it giet my allinne mar om âld en nij stavere wurden. Sjoch mar yn de wurdboeken fan bygelyks J.W. Zantema dan krije jo allinne mar in trochferwizing as it wurd dat trochwiist as fariant ek tastien is. Yn alle oare gefallen komt it net yn it wurdboek foar. Wurden mei bygelyks 'ae' (foar 1980) no 'aa' wurde yn wurdboeken net trochferwiisd. It nijste Frysk wurdboek ken Hollannismen, mar allinne mei in dúdlike oantekening dat soks in Hollannisme is. (Ek de nije staveringshifker slút dêrby oan.) Groetnis Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 12.44 (CET)
- In trochferwizing yn in wurdboek is fansels hiel wat oars as yn in Wikipedy. Ik lês út dyn ferhaal dat it ynterpretearjen fan in trochferwizing foar betizing soarget en op dizze manier begryp ik dyn soargen fuort en direkt. Ik sil de ferskillen tusken trochferwizen yn in wurdboek en in digitale ensyklopedy mei trije eksimpels besykje dúdlik te meitsjen:
- Yn in wurdboek nimme se (1) romte yn, (2) se falle op en (3) meitsje in wurdboek minder dúdlik.
- (1) Yn in digitale ensyklopedy nimt ien lytse foto folle mear romte yn as alle trochferwizings fan ús Wikipedy by elkoar. (2) Se falle net op, salang't elkenien mar wit wêr't se op sykje moatte. Trochferwizingen sjogge wy net yn sykregisters, temasiden, kategoryen, ensafh. In leek soe net iensen witte dat se bestean. (3) Kinne sy it begryp inkeld yn de âlde stavering, dan wurde se mei in trochferwizing op it 'rjochte paad' holpen. De Wikipedy wurdt der dus in stik tagongkliker troch.
- Koartsein, it trochferwizen yn in digitale ensyklopedy is in winst. Yn de statistiken wurdt ús Wikipedy dêrtroch sels 'djipper'. Dat betsjut dat hoe mear trochferwizingen wy hawwe, hoe mear djipte dizze Wikipedy hat yn ferliking mei Wiky's yn oare talen. Ik hoopje dat ien en oar sa in bytsje dúdliker wurden is. Sa net, jou lûd. Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 13.19 (CET)
- In trochferwizing yn in wurdboek is fansels hiel wat oars as yn in Wikipedy. Ik lês út dyn ferhaal dat it ynterpretearjen fan in trochferwizing foar betizing soarget en op dizze manier begryp ik dyn soargen fuort en direkt. Ik sil de ferskillen tusken trochferwizen yn in wurdboek en in digitale ensyklopedy mei trije eksimpels besykje dúdlik te meitsjen:
- As jo fan in Ingelsk begryp nei in Frysk begryp ferwize, is der neat mis mei. Ingelske wurden wurde hast altiten wol herkend. De synonimen dy't wy hjir trochferwize, is fansels ek neat mis mei. Nee it giet my allinne mar om âld en nij stavere wurden. Sjoch mar yn de wurdboeken fan bygelyks J.W. Zantema dan krije jo allinne mar in trochferwizing as it wurd dat trochwiist as fariant ek tastien is. Yn alle oare gefallen komt it net yn it wurdboek foar. Wurden mei bygelyks 'ae' (foar 1980) no 'aa' wurde yn wurdboeken net trochferwiisd. It nijste Frysk wurdboek ken Hollannismen, mar allinne mei in dúdlike oantekening dat soks in Hollannisme is. (Ek de nije staveringshifker slút dêrby oan.) Groetnis Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 12.44 (CET)
- Dat is in goed stribjen. Stavering is in wichtich ûnderdiel fan goed taalgebrûk. Wy moatte ek safolle mooglik op dat goede taalgebrûk ta. En dat slagget neffens my bêst aardich. Dat komt ûnder oaren troch dyn aktive ynset foar dizze Wikipedy. Ik pas de nije stavering ta en der binne ek oare Wikipedianen dy't dat dogge. De trochferwizingen kinne wy om my noch wol eventsjes as helpmiddel brûke. Fansels kinne wy se geandewei fuorthelje, mar dan allinnich as se yrrelevant binne. Neffens my haw ik wolris begripen út de stavering fan foar 1980 as trochferwizing brûkt. Wat is der eins mis mei it brûken fan trochferwizingen? Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 11.28 (CET)
- Ut it eachweid fan it ûnderwiis wei wol ik allinne mar pleitsje foar dúdlikens. Wy hawwe it oer om en de by 500 oantsjuttings. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 10.42 (CET)
- De measte minsken geane no stadichoan wol oer op de nije stavering. Ik sjoch it belang fan in ienriedige skriuwwize en ik stypje sa'n ienriedige skriuwwize. Mar foar my kin dy standert foar it Frysk ynearsten wol wat breder wêze. Seker yn dizze oergongstiid. Fansels is dy nije stavering al in feit, mar noch net alle minsken binne der oan wend. Jou se tiid. Nei ferrin fan tiid komme der jongeren fan skoalle dy't allinnich mar de nije stavering leard hawwe en folwoeksen minsken dy't in skriuwkursus dien hawwe. Op in bepaald momint wurde wurdsjes as 'ieu' as âldfrinzich field en dan miskien wol fuorthelle. Foar't it safier is wol ik de wikynocht fan aktive en tige belutsen Wikipedianen net bedjerre. Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 10.10 (CET)
- Fansels soene jo ek yn it begjin fan alle omstavere wikyteksten opnimme kinne (Nije stavering 2015). As soks de oaren helpt om oer har skaad hinne te stappen, dan is dat miskien in goede tuskenoplossing. Wol bliuwt it oerstallich om hûnderten kearen fan ieu nei iuw te ferwizen. Betink wol dat soks der oer 8 oant 10 jier allegearre wer út moat. Ik haw oangeande de werneamings oant no ta om en de by 2 oant 3 persint fan de wikys bylâns west. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 31 jan 2016, 11.45 (CET)
- Ik bin bliid datsto myn soargen fuort en direkt begrypst. Mar út dyn argumintaasje begryp ik datsto net sjen kinst dat wy hjir no twa soarten trochferwizings trochinoar brûke. 1. Dy't synonime/fariante situaasjes ferbynt. 2. Dy't de âlde stavering klakkeleas nei de nije stavering bringt. Dat lêste wurdt yn wurdboeken ensfh. nea dien en soarget by de brûker foar it idee dat jo noch allebeide brûke meie/kinne. As er dêrnei syn tekst oer de staveringshifker hellet, socht er dat dy ferh... wiky him op de ferkearde foet set hat. It tal kategoryen koe om my wol minder, mar ik bin útsoarte hielendal net tsjin trochferwizings. Ik soe sizze altiten dwaan. Groetnis, Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 1 feb 2016, 15.26 (CET)
- Wy hawwe betsjuttingssiden, dêr't mei keppelings op oanjûn is wat ferskate betsjuttings fan itselde wurd binne. Dy moat de lêzer al lêze, om't syn fraach of keppeling net persys genôch west hat om op de krekte side út te kommen. Foar ferskillen yn staverings binne dy gjin goed middel. En oarsom hawwe wy trochferwizings, dy't mei in automatyske keppeling oanjaan dat ferskate wurden foar deselde betsjuttings binne. Dy wolle wy hjir hawwe, en it giet fansels, dat de lêzer vernimt der neat fan. Allinnich sjocht er op de side dêr't er útkomt dat der stiet dat er trochferwiisd is. Sjoch, dat wolle wy hawwe.
- Earder skreaune jo "Allinnich koe der by de nije stavering yn de tekst opnaam wurde dat de stavering foar 2015 oars wie." Dêrmei koe ik ien en oar hiel wol oplosse. Yn guon situaasjes meld ik "Nije stavering 2015". Soks allinne mar as der yn te titel fan de wiky in staveringsoanpassing sit. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 7 feb 2016, 17.33 (CET)
- Wy hawwe betsjuttingssiden, dêr't mei keppelings op oanjûn is wat ferskate betsjuttings fan itselde wurd binne. Dy moat de lêzer al lêze, om't syn fraach of keppeling net persys genôch west hat om op de krekte side út te kommen. Foar ferskillen yn staverings binne dy gjin goed middel. En oarsom hawwe wy trochferwizings, dy't mei in automatyske keppeling oanjaan dat ferskate wurden foar deselde betsjuttings binne. Dy wolle wy hjir hawwe, en it giet fansels, dat de lêzer vernimt der neat fan. Allinnich sjocht er op de side dêr't er útkomt dat der stiet dat er trochferwiisd is. Sjoch, dat wolle wy hawwe.
- Ik soe sizze dat dy ferwizings net oars binne as oare trochferwizings. Allinnich koe der by de nije stavering yn de tekst opnaam wurde dat de stavering foar 2015 oars wie. (Ik leau ik haw earder alles sein wat ik der fierders fan fyn.) Mar binne der dan werneamings dy't noch dien wurde moatten? Mysha (oerlis)
Bot
[boarne bewurkje]- Kin in 'bot' it wurden ferfangen net automatysk dwaan? PiefPafPier (oerlis) 4 feb 2016, 14.14 (CET)
- Soks soe fansels prachtich wêze, mar oant no ta hawwe wy gjin 'bot' dy't it Frysk goed yn 'e macht hat. Der sit nochal wat 'oerlap' tusken ieu en eigennammen as Nieuwenhuis, Sieuwert ensfh. Miskien dat de moderatoaren har der ris yn ferdjipje kinne.Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 4 feb 2016, 16.37 (CET)
- In bot hoecht de taal net te kennen. De patroanen moatte programmearre wurde (regular expressions), mei in fisuele kontrôlestap derfoar (in wurdlist teste), en dernei (wiki diffs, 100% of stekproef).
Miskien hat nl.wikipedia in skript?Miskien kin dit brûkt wurde: Extension:MassEditRegex en Extension:Replace_Text? PiefPafPier (oerlis) 5 feb 2016, 08.22 (CET)- Ja, en nee. In bot koe it measte fan it wurk dwaan. At it aanst wat stiller yn it lokaal is kin ik wolris sjen by dy twa keppelings. Der bliuwe yn teory lykwols twa perblemen oer:
- Binne der gearstallings dêr't de kombenaasje "ieu" yn foarme is, sûnder dat dat lûd oantsjut wurdt?
- Moatte titels feroare wurde at it _wurd_ ieu der yn brûkt wurdt?
- At wy allinnich foar los it wurdt ieu geane, en de Sieuwen sels dogge, dan is in goed part troch in bot te dwaan. Lykwols soe de twadde fraach dan noch in perbleem wêze kinne. Mysha (oerlis)
- Wat fierder tocht, koenen Sieu ensafh. los ek oanpast wurde. By de titels koenen lykwols ek noch oanhellings út oare talen komme. It liket my dat wy it fierst komme mei it automatisch trochrinnen fan de ynhâld fan al ús siden, om te sjen wêr't wy tsjinoan rinne kinne. Yn it ferline koe men gâns in wikipedy ophelje, mar ik wit net mear hoe of wêr. Wit immen dêr mear oer? Mysha (oerlis)
- Hjir stiet der wat oer: Database_download. Wit net oft it in binary of tekst database is. PiefPafPier (oerlis) 5 feb 2016, 19.46 (CET)
- De ieu(wen) sitte yn noch om en de by 6000 Wikys (wie 7500) en midsieuwen ensfh. yn 1000 Wikys. De oare wurden giet om lytsere oantallen. Miskien kinne wy ris in proefke dwaan mei sa'n oar wurd; bygelyks televyzje nei telefyzje. Hoe grutter it wurd hoe minder kâns op ferkearde oanpassings. No knip ik de gruttere boarneteksten en set se nei Word. Dan 'zoek en vervang' en knip en plak ik se werom nei de wiky. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 5 feb 2016, 18.44 (CET)
- Ik begryp de swierrichheden, mar haw der fierder gjin ferstân fan. In bot soe ús in soad wurk út hannen nimme kinne. Súkses! Drewes (oerlis) 5 feb 2016, 19.10 (CET)
- Ik ha der ek gjin sjoeges fan --Geoffrey (oerlis) 7 feb 2016, 21.57 (CET)
- Ik begryp de swierrichheden, mar haw der fierder gjin ferstân fan. In bot soe ús in soad wurk út hannen nimme kinne. Súkses! Drewes (oerlis) 5 feb 2016, 19.10 (CET)
- Tank. Dy hie ik noch net fûn. Ik haw hjir lykwols net it ark om der wat mei te dwaan. dat ik neisjen sil grif wachtsje moatte oant ik thús bin. Mysha (oerlis)
- Ik haw ris sjûn. Hielendal fansels kin it net, tink; der binne wat te folle útsûnderings. Mar dy ynstekkers soenen al helpe kinne om parten fan it wwurk te dwaan. Dan bliuwt der minder hânmjittich wurk oer. fansels, at dat myn putsje wurdt, dan haw ik dêr de rjochten foar nedich. Mysha (oerlis)
- Ja, en nee. In bot koe it measte fan it wurk dwaan. At it aanst wat stiller yn it lokaal is kin ik wolris sjen by dy twa keppelings. Der bliuwe yn teory lykwols twa perblemen oer:
- In bot hoecht de taal net te kennen. De patroanen moatte programmearre wurde (regular expressions), mei in fisuele kontrôlestap derfoar (in wurdlist teste), en dernei (wiki diffs, 100% of stekproef).
- Soks soe fansels prachtich wêze, mar oant no ta hawwe wy gjin 'bot' dy't it Frysk goed yn 'e macht hat. Der sit nochal wat 'oerlap' tusken ieu en eigennammen as Nieuwenhuis, Sieuwert ensfh. Miskien dat de moderatoaren har der ris yn ferdjipje kinne.Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 4 feb 2016, 16.37 (CET)
Rjochten foar bot
[boarne bewurkje]Mei ik it rjocht masseditregex foar Meidogger:Botmûske, foar werstaveringaksjes? (Oannaam dat dy ynstekker foar fy: ynstallearre is.) Mysha (oerlis)
- Moat altiten wêze.Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 9 feb 2016, 17.52 (CET)
Goed, ik haw it frege. Wy wachtsje. Mysha (oerlis)
- Wêr is it wachtsjen no op?--Geoffrey (oerlis) 13 feb 2016, 10.58 (CET)
- Dat Kening seit dat er tastimming jûn hat. (Of oant wy der genôch fan hawwe en in oare oplossing fine.) Mysha (oerlis)
- Kloppet, Drewes en ik hawwe dy rjochten net. - --Geoffrey (oerlis) 15 feb 2016, 22.25 (CET)
- Dat Kening seit dat er tastimming jûn hat. (Of oant wy der genôch fan hawwe en in oare oplossing fine.) Mysha (oerlis)
Fakânsje
[boarne bewurkje]De skoalle is wer ticht de kommende wike: Goeie fakânsje! Mysha (oerlis)
VisualEditor News #1—2016
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Did you know?
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Japanese, Korean, Arabic, Indic, and Han scripts, and improving the single edit tab interface.
Recent changes
[boarne bewurkje]You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing. This function is available to nearly all editors at most wikis except the Wiktionaries and Wikisources.
Many local feedback pages for the visual editor have been redirected to mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
You can now re-arrange columns and rows in tables, as well as copying a row, column or any other selection of cells and pasting it in a new location.
The formula editor has two options: you can choose "Quick edit" to see and change only the LaTeX code, or "Edit" to use the full tool. The full tool offers immediate preview and an extensive list of symbols.
Future changes
[boarne bewurkje]The single edit tab project will combine the "Bewurkje" and "Boarne bewurkje" tabs into a single "Bewurkje" tab. This is similar to the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Bewurkje" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as an account preference for logged-in editors, and as a cookie for logged-out users. Logged-in editors will have these options in the Bewurkjen tab of Special:Preferences:
- De lêste tekstbewurker ûnthâlde,
- Altiten de fisuële bewurker jaan dêr’t it kin,
- Altiten de boarnebewurker jaan, and
- Beide bewurkerstabblêden sjen litte. (This is the state for people using the visual editor now.)
The visual editor uses the same search engine as Special:Search to find links and files. This search will get better at detecting typos and spelling mistakes soon. These improvements to search will appear in the visual editor as well.
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at most "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. This will affect the following languages, amongst others: Japanese, Korean, Urdu, Persian, Arabic, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Hindi, Bengali, Assamese, Thai, Aramaic.
Let's work together
[boarne bewurkje]- Please try out the newest version of the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You may need to restore the default preferences (at the bottom of test2wiki:Special:Preferences) to see the initial prompt for options. Were you able to find a preference setting that will work for your own editing? Did you see the large preferences dialog box when you started editing an article there?
- Can you read and type in Korean, Arabic, Japanese, Indic, or Han scripts? Does typing in these languages feels natural in the visual editor? Language engineer David Chan needs to know. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org.
- Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Join the Tech Talk about "Automated citations in Wikipedia: Citoid and the technology behind it" with Sebastian Karcher on 29 February 2016.
If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
Elitre (WMF), 26 feb 2016, 22.21 (CET)
Wikimania 2016: call for posters, discussions and trainings
[boarne bewurkje]Hi people,
the calls for posters, discussions and trainings for Wikimania 2016 are officially opened, you can find all the relevant links on the conference wiki:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions
The calls will be closed on March 20.
Posters will be reviewed just to make sure that there aren't things which are too much out of scope. Since we have a whole village we will surely find places to attach them, even if we they will be a lot!
Discussions will be managed by a guiding committee who will work on the wiki to meld all the proposals and suggestions.
Trainings will be reviewed by the programme committee. Please note that we request that each training has at least 3-5 interested attendees in order to be put in the programme.
By the beginning of April we will have a first list of all the accepted proposals.
If you have questions we suggest you to ask them on the discussion pages on wiki, so that everyone will be able to see them (and their answers, of course).
We are looking forward to read your ideas! --Yiyi (oerlis) 29 feb 2016, 16.25 (CET)
Completion suggestor
[boarne bewurkje]Updates to wiki search auto completion are arriving 10 March
[boarne bewurkje]Hello!
Please help translate to your language. Thank you!
The completion suggester beta feature will become the default at the first group of wikis on Thursday, 10 March. This initial rollout will start with some of the smaller wikis to ensure the change happens in an organized way. The remaining wikis will receive the update on Wednesday, 16 March. This update brings three major improvements to search. Improved search result ordering, a tolerance for a small number of spelling errors, and suggests fewer typos.
Since December 2015, 19,000 editors have already opted into the completion suggester beta feature. Contributors are encouraged to try out the feature ahead of the release. Please share any comments on the Completion Suggester discussion page in any language.
To learn more about the work of the Discovery department and other improvements to search, please check out the Wikimedia blog. Read about CirrusSearch, the MediaWiki extension that makes wiki search possible.- User:CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 7 mrt 2016, 23.09 (CET)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (March 2016)
[boarne bewurkje]Apologies for writing in English. Please help translate to your language
Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for access to research materials from:
- Cambridge University Press - a major publisher of academic journals and e-books in a variety of subject areas. Access includes both Cambridge Journals Online and Cambridge Books. 25 accounts.
- Alexander Street Academic Video Online - a large academic video collection good for a wide range of subjects, including news programs (such as PBS and BBC), music and theatre, lectures and demonstrations, and documentaries. 25 accounts.
- Baylor University Press - a publisher of academic e-books primarily in religious studies and the humanities. 50 accounts.
- Future Science Group - a publisher of medical, biotechnological and scientific research. 30 accounts.
- Annual Reviews - a publisher of review articles in the biomedical sciences. 100 accounts.
- Miramar Ship Index - an index to ships and their histories since the early 19th century. 30 accounts.
Non-English
- Noormags - Farsi-language aggregator of academic and professional journals and magazines. 30 accounts.
- Kotobna - Arabic-language ebook publishing platform. 20 accounts.
Expansions
- Gale - aggregator of newspapers, magazines and journals. 50 accounts.
- Elsevier ScienceDirect - an academic publishing company that publishes medical and scientific literature. 100 accounts.
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, De Gruyter, EBSCO, Newspapers.com and British Newspaper Archive. Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 17 mrt 2016, 21.30 (CET)
- You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
Edit-a-thon Attische nachten 14 april 2016 in Tresoar
[boarne bewurkje]Hello, Met excuses voor het Nederlands, maar graag wil ik jullie wijzen op een bijeenkomst die op 14 april wordt georganiseerd bij Tresoar. De edit-a-thon heeft als thema het werk Attische Nachten van de auteur Aulus Gellius in het kader van de Week van de Klassieken. In Tresoar ligt het oudst bewaarde gebleven handschrift van de Noctes Atticae (Attische Nachten) uit ca. 836. Men kan een pagina aanmaken voor het handschrift, maar ook de pagina’s over Aulus Gellius zelf en zijn Noctes Atticae aanvullen. Tijdens de Edit-a-thon geeft dr. Jacob van Sluis een inleidende lezing over Middeleeuwse handschriften, in het bijzonder het manuscript van de Attische nachten. Daarnaast is er natuurlijk gelegenheid andere pagina’s op de Wikipedia te bewerken. Meer en praktische informatie of mail info[a]wikimedia.nl. Mocht iemand dit in het Fries willen vertalen, dat lijkt mij helemaal prima! Elisabethwiessner (oerlis) 29 mrt 2016, 12.21 (CEST) Wikimedia Nederland
Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants
[boarne bewurkje]Please help translate to your language:
Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
- Submit a grant request or draft your proposal in IdeaLab
- Get help with your proposal in an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants
With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 31 mrt 2016, 17.47 (CEST)
Server switch 2016
[boarne bewurkje]The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its newest data center in Dallas. This will make sure Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic to the new data center on Tuesday, 19 April.
On Thursday, 21 April, they will switch back to the primary data center.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for approximately 15 to 30 minutes on Tuesday, 19 April and Thursday, 21 April, starting at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT).
If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped.
Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be a code freeze for the week of 18 April.
No non-essential code deployments will take place.
This test was originally planned to take place on March 22. April 19th and 21st are the new dates. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. They will post any changes on that schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17 apr 2016, 23.07 (CEST)
Leardaam
[boarne bewurkje]Hoe skriuwe wy Leardaam? Wy hawwe no Leerdam en Leardam. Mysha (oerlis)
- Ik soe sizze, of Leerdam of Leardaam. Drewes (oerlis) 19 apr 2016, 13.40 (CEST)
Wikipedia to the Moon
[boarne bewurkje]Hello! Sorry that this is in English only, but we are using village pump messaging in order to reach as many language communities as possible. Wrong page? Please fix it here.
This is an invitation to all Wikipedians: Wikimedia Deutschland has been given data space to include Wikipedia content in an upcoming mission to the Moon. (No joke!) We have launched a community discussion about how to do that, because we feel that this is for the global community of editors. Please, join the discussion on Meta-Wiki (and translate this invitation to your language community)! Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 21 apr 2016, 17.35 (CEST)
Oer oe en û
[boarne bewurkje]De offisjele stavering fan Joegoslaavje is mei in 'oe', want yn it Nederlânsk is it ek Joegoslavië, en sûnt de lêste staveringsherfoarming moatte wy nei it Nederlânsk sjen. Staveret it Nederlânsk it wurd mei in 'oe', dan it Frysk ek. Fierder hoege wy net te sjen.
Oft de 'oe' fan Joegoslaavje in ienlûd is docht op gjin inkele wize ter sake, om't de hjoeddeiske stavering fan 'oe' en 'û' yn it Frysk dêr neat mei te krijen hat. De iennichste regel is de folgjende: is it in twalûd, dan moat it stavere wurde mei in 'oe'. Mar de 'oe' fan Joegoslaavje is gjin twalûd, en dus is dy regel hjir net fan tapassing. Yn it Frysk kin de 'oe' no stean foar in twalûd, lykas yn 'soer' en 'hoed'; in koart lûd, lykas yn 'hoe' en 'doek'; en in lang lûd, lykas yn 'droech' (doetiid fan 'drage') en 'koeke'. Dus dat in 'oe'/'û'-klank yn it Frysk altyd mei in 'û' skreaun wurde moat as it gjin twalûd is, is net wier. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 22 maa 2016, 19.11 (CEST)
- As jo Sânsibar fonetysk skriuwe wolle, wat ik mei jo iens bin, dan moatte jo fonetysk ek Jûgoslaavje skriuwe om't it in ienlûd is. Alle lannen om ús hinne skriuwe dat ienlûd. Nammen hawwe neat te krijen mei dy Nederlânske staveringsregel. Ik bin al sûnt 1994 dielnimmer by/fan de Topografyske Wurkgroep Fryslân en dan soene jo my fertelle, hoe't soks yninoar stekt. Drewes slút jo sa'n man no ris út. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 22 maa 2016, 19.40 (CEST)
- Ik haw hjirboppe wiidweidich útlein wêrom't de stavering fan 'Joegoslaavje' yn 'e fierste fierte neat te krijen hat mei ienlûden en twalûden. Dat it stavere wurde moat mei in 'oe' betsjut net dat it útsprutsen wurde moat mei in twalûd; krektoarsom. Der wurde yn it Frysk withoefolle ienlûden stavere mei in 'oe': 'hoe', 'doek', 'boek', 'roek', 'doe', 'joech', 'groep', 'troep', 'hoege', 'sloech', 'foegje', en gean sa mar troch. Net ien sprekt dy wurden út mei in twalûd. Dat meidogger Yn 'e Wâlden dat net begrypt, kin ik net helpe. Lannenammen, dy't ferbûcht wurde kinne (Joegoslaavje - Joegoslavysk - Joegoslaaf), hearre, oars as persoansnammen, sûnder ienige twifel wol deeglik ta de stavering. Ik bin in grut foarstanner fan fonetyske stavering, mar de 'oe'/'û'-stavering fan it Frysk is sa'n soadsje dat der neat fonetysk oan is.
- Oer it gedrach fan meidogger Yn 'e Wâlden it folgjende. Oan 'e iene kant timmeret er oanhâldend op 'e staveringregels om dy't ús fan 'e Fryske Akademy út oplein binne, wylst er oan 'e oare kant dyselde regels stelselmjittich oan syn lears lapet as dat yn syn kream te pas komt. Dat er no skermet mei syn wurk by de Topografyske Wurkgroep Fryslân hat hjir ek neat mei te krijen: Joegoslaavje leit net yn Fryslân, en as dat al sa wie, dan hiene wy no dizze diskusje net, want Droegeham wurdt ek noch altyd mei in 'oe' stavere, sûnder mei in twalûd útsprutsen te wurden. Wy hawwe ferline jier sjoen dat it gjin sin hat om mei dizze man yn diskusje te gean. Hy mient fan himsels dat er de wiisheid yn pacht hat en dat dêrom syn wil wet wêze moat. Noch altyd hat er him op gjin inkele wize ûntskuldige foar syn hufterich gedrach fan ferline jier. Dat is my noch net fergetten. Dit is in man dy't, as er syn gelyk net krije kin, nei swakke plakken siket om sa kwetsend mooglik út 'e hoeke te kommen. Efternei spyt it my noch altyd dat ik der doe net op stien haw dat er foargoed útsletten wurde moast, mar op dat stuit liek dat net nedich om't er út himsels al opkrasse woe. No't er werom is, haw ik besocht om him safolle mooglik te negearjen. Mar no siket er alwer problemen. Hy hat oaren net te sizzen wêr't se ôfbliuwe moatte; hy is net de presidint fan 'e Wikipedy. En as er sa trochgiet, dan is er mei koarten ek gjin meidogger mear. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 22 maa 2016, 20.46 (CEST)
- Ik foarsjoch in slepende striid. Om dat foar te kommen, stel ik foar dat we dizze kwestje foarlizze oan 'e Fryske Akademy om dizze saak foar iens en foar altyd út 'e wrâld te helpen. Dan moat der frege wurde hoe't we guon lannenammen staverje moatte. Dêrby giet it yn elts gefal om de folgjende lannen:
- Joegoslaavje of Jûgoslaavje
- Koeweit of Kûweit
- Oekraïne of Ukraïne
- Roemeenje of Rûmeenje
- Uganda of Oeganda
- Miskien binne der noch mear dy't problemen opsmite kinne, mar mear kin ik op it stuit even net betinke. Foar myn part sette we Zanzibar/Sânsibar der ek by. As de FA my gelyk jout, dan moat Yn 'e Wâlden him dêr by dellizze. Oarsom, as de Akademy yn it foardiel fan Yn 'e Wâlden beslisse soe, dan hearre jo my hjir net wer oer; sterker noch, dan bin ik ree om mei te wurkjen oan it eventuële omstaverjen fan siden en kategoryen.
- Ik foarsjoch in slepende striid. Om dat foar te kommen, stel ik foar dat we dizze kwestje foarlizze oan 'e Fryske Akademy om dizze saak foar iens en foar altyd út 'e wrâld te helpen. Dan moat der frege wurde hoe't we guon lannenammen staverje moatte. Dêrby giet it yn elts gefal om de folgjende lannen:
- It probleem is even wa't hjirmei nei de Fryske Akademy sil. Ik soe it sels wol dwaan wolle, mar ik betwifelje oft Yn 'e Wâlden it fan my oannimme wol as de FA seit 'Joegoslaavje moat mei in oe'. Dat it liket my de baas dat in neutrale bemiddeler kontakt opnimt mei de Akademy. Dat moat wol fia de e-mail kinne, tocht ik. Miskien soe Drewes dit op him nimme wolle? Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 22 maa 2016, 21.18 (CEST)
Goed plan. Ik sil kontakt opnimme mei de Fryske Akademy. Drewes (oerlis) 22 maa 2016, 21.39 (CEST)
- Bêste Drewes, freegje dan gelyk efkes oft de list fan de Akademy in advys of in binende list is. Ommers dan moatte wy alle staveringen útgeande op -je (sa'n 90 persint) ek oanpasse oan de ië dy't de Akademy advisearret. En miskien kinne jo wat de oe/û oanbelanget it ferhaal fan Uganda, Sûdan en Oekraïne (alle trije yn de list) oankaarte? Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 23 maa 2016, 10.16 (CEST)
- Ik sil it allegear 'meinimme'. Hjoed wiene de lju fan it Taalburo net te berikken. Moarn besykje ik it wer. Drewes (oerlis) 23 maa 2016, 15.11 (CEST)
Joegoslavië, Joegoslaavje of Jûgoslaavje
[boarne bewurkje]As jo de Hollânske stavering dy't grif troch de Akademy advisearre wurdt beskiedend meitsje soene, dan moatte jo net allinne de Hollânske oe oernimme, mar ek alle útgongen op -je (sa'n 90 persint) fan dizze Wikipedia oanpasse. Ik soe der fan grize, mar konsekwint is konsekwint! Dêrom kinne jo de ynfloed fan dy Hollânske oe better beheine ta de Benelúks dêr't ea Hollânsk praat is. Miskien dat jo soks noch útwreidzje moatte mei dat Aparte lân: Súd-afrika. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 23 maa 2016, 10.43 (CEST)
- Der is neat 'Hollânsk' oan 'e skriuwwize 'oe'. Sa't ik hjirboppe al twa kear útlein haw, wurdt de 'oe' yn it Frysk brûkt foar alle trije útsprekwizen fan 'e klank û. Dat meidogger Yn 'e Wâlden no blykber alle û-klanken dy't gjin twalûd binne (lykas yn 'bloed') mei in 'û' staverje wol, is nearne op basearre, staveringshistoarysk net en fonetysk likemin. Hy besiket in ûnderskie oan te bringen dat yn 'e Fryske stavering op it stuit gewoan net bestiet. Ik hie sels wol graach wollen dat de Fryske Akademy dêr by de lêste staveringsferoaring wat oan dien hie ynstee fan listkes mei wurden hinne en wer te skowen fan 'e iene staveringswize nei de oare wylst se mei deselde klank útsprutsen wurde, mar dat hawwe se no ien kear net dien.
- De útgongen op -ië en op -je binne yn it Frysk allebeide goed, al skynt de Fryske Akademy yndie de foarkar te jaan oan 'e foarm op -ië. It boekje Stavering fan 'e Afûk (drs. F.B. Dijkstra, Stavering, Ljouwert, 1991, Afûk, ISBN 9 06 27 34 537), seit lykwols op s. 46:
- In soad nammen fan lannen einigje yn it Nederlânsk op "ië". Yn it Frysk wurdt dy foarm meast ek oanholden. Mar in Fryskere foarm is ek mooglik: Ned. "Scandinavië", Fr. "Skandinaavje"; Ned. "Albanië", Fr. "Albaanje"; Ned. "Armenië", Fr. "Armeenje"; Ned. "Argentinië", Fr. "Argentynje"; Ned. "Indië", Fr. "Ynje"; Ned. "Groot-Brittannië", Fr. "Grut-Brittanje"; Ned. "Slovenië", Fr. "Sloveenje".
- It stikje einiget mei in grappich plaatsje fan in backpacker dy't by it plaknammeboerd "Tinië" / "Tynje" stiet en dat op 'e kaart besiket werom te finen. Sa wie de sitewaasje foarôfgeande oan 'e lêste staveringsferoaring, en de Fryske Akademy hat dúdlik oanjûn dat der útslutend wat feroare is oan 'e wurden dy't se yn 'e beide PDF/Word-listen neame dy't op dizze side (yn 'e rjochterkolom) oan te klikken/yn te sjen binne. Mei't dêr neat sein wurdt oer lannenammen op -ië/-je meie wy der dus fan útgean dat it mei sokke lannenammen itselde bleaun is: de FA jout as foarkarsfoarmen -ië, mar de foarmen op -je meie ek. Itselde is trouwens it gefal mei wurden as 'situaasje'/'sitewaasje'. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 24 maa 2016, 14.58 (CEST)
Droegeham of Drûgeham
[boarne bewurkje]Yn Nederlân is it by wet regele dat de eigener/behearder fan in gebiet/plak it foech hat om de namme fêst te stellen. De Provinsjale Steaten geane oer de nammen fan provinsjale gebieten (en net oer dy dêr bûten) en de gemeenten oer dy fan de gemeenten ensfh. Om't oant no ta nimmen wit oft de gemeenteried fan Achtkarspelen de namme Droegeham ea offisjeel fêstlein hat yn in riedsbeslút, kriget dy gemeenteried oant dat soks fêststeld is it foardiel fan de twifel. En dêrom skriuwe wy no noch hieltiten Droegeham. In gemeenteriedslid hat in skoftke lyn al tasein om ien en oar út te sykjen. Dêrnei binne der twa mooglikheden:1) it waard earder fêstlein en dan kin allinne de gemeenteried ien en oar oanpasse; 2) der is neat fêstlein en dan ropt de oanpassing fan de Steatestavering de Friezen op om binnen it Frysk Drûgeham te skriuwen.
Sa giet in (advys)list fan de Provinsjale Steaten (makke troch de Akademy) nea oer de provinsje grinzen hinne. Ommers Nederlân of hokker lân dan ek giet sels oer syn nammejouwing. Wy sjogge soks al by de kranten mei de namme Fryslân, It Deiblêd folget en de Ljouwerter ferploft it.Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 23 maa 2016, 10.43 (CEST)
- Fansels kin in advys oer Fryske nammen al gean oer nammen oer nammen foarby de Fryske grinzen. Der binne in pear tûzen talen; der is net in lân dat foar al dy talen fêstleit hoe alle nammen yn dat lân binne yn al dy talen, útsein dêr't lju sizze dat eltsenien yn alle talen de nammen itselde útsprekke en skriuwe moatte (wat ornaris net kin om't dy klanken der yn guon oare talen hielendal net binne).
- De namme "Fryslân" is hoop ik fêstlein foar kontekstleas brûken. In Fries seit gjin "Zuid-Holland" yn it Frysk; dat kin ek net yn it Frysk. Wêrom soe in Hollanner dan "Fryslân" sizze yn it Hollânsk, wat likegoed net kin yn it Hollânsk? Mar sûnder kontekst, lykas by in oersjoch fan provinsjenammen, dêr kin fansels al Fryslân skreaun wurde. Hawar, of der yn it Hollânsk "Fryslân" skreaun wurde moat is net úr probleem, hjir. Mar wy skriuw gjin "Pary", sa't it yn Frankryksein wurdt, of "Paris" sa't it dêr skreaun wurdt, en it hoecht by oare nammen net oars te wêzen. Mysha (oerlis)
- Fansels meie jo advisearje oant jo in ûns wage, as jo mar dúdlik meitsje dat it in advys is. Mar jo rinne altiten tsjin twa streamings oan. Meitsje wy fan St-Petersburg Sint-Pitersboarch of bliuwe wy tichterbij it ynternasjonale Sint-Petersburch. Beide skoallen hawwe in bytsje gelyk. In oar foarbyld dat wy hjir yn de wiky brûke. Wy skriuwe hjir Denemark (ynternasjonaler) wylst de list fan de Akademy klakkeleas it Nederlânske Denemarken folget. Binnen it Nederlânsk sjochst it ek al Soedan wurdt Sudan en Oeganda wurdt Uganda. Wylst de list fan de Akademy - foar de staveringsferoaring de âlde regel oe by oe/oo folge - kiest dyselde Akademy by dizze twa nammen foar de ynternasjonale foarm en makket der Sûdan en Uganda fan. Jo meie ferwachtsje dat ûnder ynfloed fan it Ingelsk de folgjende Van Dale noch mear oe's troch de ynternasjonale u ferfongen hat. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 24 maa 2016, 12.48 (CEST)
- Dat Denemark sa skreaun wurdt hat neat mei nasjonaal of ynternasjonaal te krijen. Der wienen twa mûglike oersettings, en Denemark hie de âldste papieren en like ek it meast of wat de lju sels seinen. Dat alle ien aktive meidoggers fan doe hawwe der doe ta besletten de earste reade keppeling foar dy side sa te skriuwen, om't it ek wie sa't dy it sei. Om't de topografyske nammelist fan doe allinnich in advys wie fan hoe de namme stavere wurde moast at dy namme brûkt waard is dat ek altiten sa bleaun. No't wy fan in ynklusive taalstandert nei in eksklusive oergongen binne, kin it wêze dat it net mear yn de wurdlist stiet. "Mar dat betsjut net dat de minsken it net mear brûke meie." Ha. Aliter (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 01.45 (CEST)
Reaksje Taalburo fan de Fryske Akademy
[boarne bewurkje]Toponimen: nammen fan lannen en wrâlddielen
Yn it wurdboek steane de Fryske nammen fan de offisjeel erkende lannen yn de wrâld en fan de wrâlddielen. Fan elke lânnamme en elk wrâlddiel is de útspraak, it fan de namme ôflate eigenskipswurd en de manlike en froulike ynwennersnamme jûn. By nammen dêr’t gjin eigenskipswurd en ynwennersnamme fan ôflaat wurde kinne, is in omskriuwing jûn.
Fan guon lânnammen en nammen fan wrâlddielen bestiet mear as ien útspraakfariant. Oars as gewoanwei yn it wurdboek, dêr’t gauris keazen is foar útspraakfarianten, stiet by de nammen fan lannen en wrâlddielen yn prinsipe ien útspraak. Dat is de útspraakfariant dy’t yn it wurdboek foarop stean soe.
De Fryske list mei nammen fan lannen is basearre op de list fan it Amerikaanske Department of State dy’t op dit stuit op it ynternet te finen is ûnder http://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm. Foar de Fryske nammefoarm is útgien fan de Nederlânske foarm sa’t dy fêststeld is troch de Nederlandse Taalunie (http://taaladvies.net/taal/aardrijkskundige_namen).
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Mei freonlike groetnis,
Hindrik Sijens:
- Myn advys is: Joegoslavië en Sansibar.
Mei freonlike groetnis,
Hindrik Sijens
It is in advyslist, dy't lykwols goedkart en brûkt wurdt troch de Provinsje Fryslân en de standert op Taalweb is of wurde sil. Drewes (oerlis) 24 maa 2016, 16.11 (CEST)
- Jo brûke it wurd standert, mar de Provinsjale Steaten hawwe dêr nei in fûle diskusje it wurd foarkar fan makke. Fierders stel ik út om op de folgjende punten it Akademy-advys net te folgjen: Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 24 maa 2016, 16.51 (CEST)
- Wy hâlde hjir ... útgongen op -je oan; Itaalje, Belgje ensfh.
- Krekt as de Akademy al docht by Uganda, Saûdy-Arabië en Sûdan, brûke wy hjir ek foar Kûweit, Ukraïne, Uzbekistan en Denemark in fonetyske foarm fan de ynternasjonale nammen.
- Fansels ferwize wy fan de nammen fan de advyslist nei de brûkte nammen.
- Jûgoslaavje stiet net op de list.
- Advyslist of standert, wy moatte hjir út 'e rie, en wy moatte ôf fan 'e sitewaasje dat ien meidogger op eigen manneboet de Wikipedy nei eigen ynsichten ynrjochtet, en boppedat dy eigen ynsichten twingend oan oaren oplizze wol.
- De foarmen op -je (ynstee fan op -ië) ... binne net fout (sjoch útlis ûnder it kopke Wikipedy:Oerlisside#Joegoslavië, Joegoslaavje of Jûgoslaavje). Dêr hoecht dus neat oan feroare te wurden. Foar de rest stel ik foar dat we dizze list gewoan standert oernimme, alteast foar titels fan siden en kategoryen. Wat men fierder yn 'e tekst skriuwe wol, moat men sels mar witte, krekt as by wurden dêr't mear as ien foarm fan bestiet, lykas 'tillefyzje' en 'telefyzje' (dêr't we yn 'e titels de foarm 'telefyzje' oanhâlde, mar dêr't de foarm 'tillefyzje' fierders frij brûkt wurde kin). Mar wat de titels fan siden en kategoryen oangiet, moat elkenien him by de standertfoarm dellizze. Iksels bin der ek net ûnferdield gelokkich mei, want ik hie bgl. leaver de foarm 'Oeganda' sjoen. Mar hawar. De staverings fan Koeweit (no 'Kûweit') en Oekraïne (no 'Ukraïne') sille yn elts gefal oanpast wurde moatte.
- Denemark en Portegal (sûnder u) binne wat aparte gefallen. 'Denemark' wie hjir húsriem doe't ik deryn kaam en ik bin dêr yn meigien, en by Portegal waard yn likernôch 75% fan 'e gefallen de u ferfongen troch in e, en doe haw ik dat op in stuit mar standerdisearre troch de ôfwikende side- en kategorytitels om te neamen. Ik bin dizze foarmen lykwols noch nea earne oars tsjinkommen as yn 'e Wikipedy. As der in konsinsus bestiet dat it 'Denemarken' en 'Portugal' wurde moat, kin dat ridlik flot feroare wurde, mei't der net sa'n soad 'Portegeeske' kategoryen binne, en om't it by Denemark yn prinsipe inkeld om 'e side en kategory oer it lâns sels giet (om't de kategoryen mei "Deensk" begjinne en dus itselde bliuwe).
- Wat Joegoslaavje/Jûgoslaavje oangiet, soe ik Drewes fersykje wolle om 'e Fryske Akademy dêr nochris op te fergjen, want dêr hawwe se noch gjin antwurd op jûn. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 24 maa 2016, 17.59 (CEST)
- Ik griis derfan, mar dan ferlangje ik ek dat al dy -je foarmen der konsekwint út geane. Dy wiene nammentlik allinne mar by de AFUK-boekskriuwers húsriem. Wy soene net wiis wêze fansels. ... Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 24 maa 2016, 19.36 (CEST)
Noch in hantsje fol nammen en dan hawwe wy it noch net iens oer persoansnammen dy't it Hollânsk oars docht: Sûlû, Kasjûbysk, Tsjûkotka, Hindoekûsj. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 25 maa 2016, 20.23 (CEST)
- It ferskil tusken de lannenammen op -je (Itaalje, Sloveenje, ensfh.) en Jûgoslaavje mei in û is it folgjende. De foarmen op -je binne offisjeel tastien en wurde sels as sadanich neamd yn gesachhawwende boarnen (sawol it boekje Stavering fan 'e Afûk, dat tsientallen jierren lang by kursussen Frysk brûkt is, as it Nederlânsk-Fryske wurdboek fan 'e Fryske Akademy). Jûgoslaavje mei in û, oan 'e oare kant, is yn gjin inkele boarne werom te finen ..., wylst dêr al in geef Fryske foarm foar bestie, nammentlik Joegoslaavje. De foarmen op -je is neat mis mei .... (Ieneach fan 'e Esk; rest fan syn kommentaar ferpleatst nei de efterkeamer troch meidogger Aliter)
- Ik sjoch gjin bysûndere reden om ús siden te feroarjen. Dat is net sa frjemd fansels, want ik bin dy meidogger dy Albaanje ensaf. seit, en foar it meastepart sil ik dy oare nammen ek wol ynfierd hawwe. "Portegal" koe yn de tiid dat it yn it Frysk noch tastien wie om wurdlidden sûnder klam sa te skriuwen at dy sein waarden; no "is it advys oars". Mar goed, wy hawwe nammen; at der ek oars stavere wurdt dan binne der trochferwizings; alle kategoryen binne, nim ik oan neamd nei hoe de side stavere is (en oars is dàt al eat wat better moat). Ik nim net oan dat der betizing fan komme sil; de nammen binne net ûnlêsber of soks, dat der is net ien dy't net útkomt dêr't er wêze wol.
- Oer nammen dêr't gjin Fryske ferzje fan delskreaun is en dêr't gjin advys foar is hawwe wy it alris hân: Wy werstaverje, as wie de namme in wurd, as de wurden oarspronklik net mei Latynske letters skreaun wurde, of at de Fryske namme as útspraak net dekt wurdt troch de oarspronklike stavering.
- Ik gefal fan Súd-Slaavje kin mei it boppensteande ôfhannele wurde: De namme Југославија is net yn Latynske tekens, en de namme Jugoslavija dekt de Fryske útspraken net. Dat at der in Fryske namme is neffens in wurdboek dan dy foarm, at der in advys is wurdt dat brûkt, en oars wurdt it neffens de regels fan de Fryske taal stavere. Aliter (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 01.45 (CEST)
- Wize wurden fan nim ik oan in 'âld' man. Wol wol ik graach wize op de kearn fan it probleem dat oer in soad wikys giet. De Fryske Akademy hat by it útbringen fan it Frysk/Frysk-hânwurdboek in list mei lannenammen útbrocht. Dy hat er sûnder de hjir brûkte -je-foarm yn de digitale Foarkarslist 2015 opnaam. As de Akademy krekt as wat er by de kar tusken bygelyks rûmte/romte de lannenammen út it fjild (dus ek dizze Wikipedia) metten hie, dan wiene grif in soad -je-útgongen as foarkar opnaam en in soad -ië-foarmen op it farianteplak telâne kaam. It twadde probleemke is dat yn dyselde lannenammelist de oe/û nochal betiizjend tapast wurdt. Lannenammen as Saûdy-Arabië, Sûdan en Uganda wurden troch it ferskowen binnen de Dikke van Dale no net langer mei oe mar mei û skreaun, wylst wy by de oare lannenammen neffens de staveringsregel fan 2015 As it Nederlânsk in oe skriuwt, dan it Frysk ek! wer de Hollânske oe skriuwe moatte dy't no krekt de útspraak fan it û-ienlûd net dekt.
- Myn útstel is om dy twa saken yn trije konkrete fragen oan de Fryske Akademy foar te lizzen:
- Is de Fryske Akademy ree om yn de Foarkarslist 2015 as fariantefoarm ek de -je-foarm fan de lannenammen op te nimmen?
- Is de Fryske Akademy ree om de skriuwwize fan Saûdy-Arabië, Sûdan en Uganda foar in heldere tapassing fan de oe/û-regel werom te draaien ta de wat ferâldere skriuwwize Saoedy-Arabië, Soedan en Oeganda om dêrmei de tapasberens fan de regel te ferbetterje? Of...
- is de Fryske Akademy ree om de oe/û-regel net fan tapassing te ferklearjen op nammen yn it algemien en toponimen yn it bysûnder?
- Om't iksels belang by dizze diskusje haw, soe bygelyks Drewes sokke fragen oan de Fryske Akademy foarlizze kinne. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 10.29 (CEST)
- Drewes nimt net nochris kontakt op mei de FA oer lânnammen
- De list mei lânnammen yn foarkarstavering hâld ik oan en '..aavje-lannen' sitte my ek net yn'e wei. "Ik nim net oan dat der betizing fan komme sil; de nammen binne net ûnlêsber of soks, dat der is net ien dy't net útkomt dêr't er wêze wol." (Aliter)
- De Fryske Akademy is gjin skepper en skriuwer fan de Wikipedy. Drewes (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 17.22 (CEST)
- Ik wit net better as dat josels seinen dat jo noch in twadde kear oer Jûgoslaavje en Sânsibar kontakt mei de FA sykje soenen. Wy koenen ús der oant foar in wike aardich mei rêde, dat foar my hoecht it net. Dy hiele bemuoienis fan de FA mei de toponimen is in nuver rommeltsje. Dan kinne wysels mei de -je-foarmen ek wol frij rommelje. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 19.48 (CEST)
- Oeps, fergetten. Ik skriuw Sijens nochris oan. Drewes (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 20.10 (CEST) Dien. Drewes (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 20.19 (CEST)
- Ik nim oan dat jo dy fragen net mear oan de FA stjoerd hawwe. Ik hie de lêste dagen noch wat yn myn Fryske netwurk omfrege wat oaren hjir mei dwaan soene. Wy, bûten de Wiky, hawwe it plan om ien en oar sûnder mear oan de polityk foar te lizzen. In advyslist as in soarte fan slikke-of-stikke-list yn de Foarkarslist op te nimmen, giet ús fierstente fier. Foar dizze wiky soe ik sizze lit Ieneach syn Joegoslaavje en Sânsibar en as de FA yn de oe/û mar wat oanrommelet dan hoege wy se dêryn net tige krekt te folgjen. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 31 maa 2016, 11.44 (CEST)
- Oeps, fergetten. Ik skriuw Sijens nochris oan. Drewes (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 20.10 (CEST) Dien. Drewes (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 20.19 (CEST)
Efterkeamerke
[boarne bewurkje]It sil grif sa wêze dat elts hjir perblemen hat mei meidoggers dy't in oare fisy hawwe oer wat in ferbettering foar de Wikipedy is. Mar wy skriuwe gjin meidoggers; wy skriuwe siden. At der in perbleem mei in side is dan hat dy side in oerlisside; at wy der ris oer gear moatte om't it faker bart dan hawwe wy it der hjir oer. Mar dan hawwe wy it oer hoe't it perbleem mei de siden oplost wurde moat; net oer wa at it al as net ferkeard docht.
En at meidoggers wier net oars kinne as sizze dat "hy" it dien hat, dan hawwe wy altiten noch in Efterkeamer. Aliter (oerlis) 30 maa 2016, 01.45 (CEST)
Jieroersjoch
[boarne bewurkje]Bêste minsken,
De jiersiden kinne wol wat ûnderhâld brûke. Dat binne in protte, mar mei in bot goed te behappen.
Mei in skript haw ik de kategoryen al kontrolearre, en hânmjittich in pear korreksjes makke.
Foar de jier/iuw-navigaasjebalken liket it my better dy troch in sjabloan te ferfangen, om fan de flaterkes en lytse ferskillen ôf te kommen. Yn 'e takomst is dat ek handiger mei bewurkjen. Hjir haw ik in opsetsje makke. De bedoeling is itselde (iuwen-jierren boppe), mar de horizontale lyntsjes en skiedstekens ferfongen troch in kleurferrin. Underoan deselde balke mei de omkearde symmetry (jierren-iuwen).
De 'Kalinders' kinne ek yn alle jiersiden opnommen wurde (rjochts-boppe).
Yn it {{Kalinderjier|dei|skrikkel}}-sjabloan lykje 63 dagen ferkeard ynfolle tusken 420-1394. De Gregoriaanske kalinder bestiet sûnt 1582. Tusken 1580-1869 wurdt it sjabloan noch net brûkt yn ús siden. Dat wie de oergongsperioade yn in protte lannen. Dit liket my in goeie omrekken-side (fia nl.wiki): http://www.ortelius.de/kalender/form_en2.php .
Miskien is it ek in idee {{commonscat}} standert op alle jiersiden te setten (tusken de ûnderste jier/iuw-balke en de kategoryen yn?), en miskien noch wat oars. --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 31 maa 2016, 20.17 (CEST)
- Pas op, Pier: yn Hollân en Seelân is de Gregoriaanske kalinder yn 1582 ynfierd, mar yn Fryslân, Grinslân en Drinte pas yn 1701. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 6 jun 2016, 15.14 (CEST)
- Ik haw der oan tocht, Fan 'e Esk. Dy komme hjir te stean. ;-)
- Moai sa. Goed wurk. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 6 jun 2016, 22.04 (CEST)
- Ik haw der oan tocht, Fan 'e Esk. Dy komme hjir te stean. ;-)
In útwei út 'e 'oe'/'û'-kwestje
[boarne bewurkje]Yn 'e kwestje oer de stavering fan lannenammen mei in û-klank, dy't no al mear as in jier spilet, moatte wy no mar ris út 'e rie. Yn 'e diskusje op dizze side is ek de kwestje derby helle oangeande de lannenammen op -je (Albaanje, Itaalje, Sloveenje) – yn tsjinstelling ta de troch de Fryske Akademy oanrette foarmen op -ië (Albanië, Italië, Slovenië). Yn 'e diskusje hjirboppe is der lykwols net ien dy't oanjout de foarmen op -je kwyt te wollen. Dizze foarmen binne boppedat offisjeel tastien en wurde neamd yn gesachhawwende boarnen (sawol it boekje Stavering fan 'e Afûk, dat tsientallen jierren lang by kursussen Frysk brûkt is, as it Nederlânsk-Fryske wurdboek fan 'e Fryske Akademy). Om't de diskusje oer de foarmen op -je folslein losstiet fan 'e striidkwestje oer de 'oe'/'û'-stavering sil ik der hjir net fierder op yn gean. As der dochs immen is dy't dizze foarmen feroarje wol, dan moat er him mar oppenearje, en dan sil de Wikipedy-mienskip deroer stimme moatte, mar op dit stuit liket my dat net nedich.
Yn 'e kwestje fan 'e lannenammen mei in û-klank hawwe wy de Fryske Akademy om ried frege, en hjirboppe stiet de list fan lannenammen dy't Sijens fan 'e FA oan meidogger Drewes trochjûn hat. Dizze list is wol wat willekeurich ('Uganda' mei in û, mar 'Koeweit' mei oe), en der is op wiisd dat it net mear as in advyslist is. Mar wy moatte oer dizze saak út 'e rie. It liket my dêrom it meast logysk ta, dat de Wikipedy yn dizze kwestje it yn elts gefal ûnpartijige advys fan 'e Fryske Akademy as standert oannimt foarsafier't it giet om it gebrûk yn titels fan siden en kategoryen. (Hokker foarm oft men yn 'e tekst fan oare artikels brûke wol, is nei myn miening minder wichtich, salang't der mar trochwiisd wurdt nei it juste lân.) Dit soe de folgjende gefolgen hawwe:
- Antigua en Barbûda, Brûnei, Bûtan, Dzjibûty, Fanûatû, Naurû, Nikaragûa, Perû, Rûanda, Saûdy-Araabje, Sûdan, Súd-Sûdan, Tûvalû en Uganda hawwe yn 'e Wikipedy in û en hâlde dy (der feroaret neat);
- Boerkina Faso, Hondoeras, Joegoslaavje, Kameroen, Oezbekistan, Papoea Nij-Guineä, Singapoer en Roemeenje hawwe yn 'e Wikipedy in oe en hâlde dy (der feroaret neat);
- Boerûndy en Oerûguay hawwe sawol in oe as in û en hâlde dy (der feroaret neat);
- Koeweit en Oekraïne hawwe yn 'e Wikipedy in û, en moatte omstavere wurde ta in oe.
Om't út de diskusje hjirboppe dúdlik nei foarren komt dat der tsjinstelde mienings binne oer dizze saak, liket my de iennichste útwei om hjiroer te stimmen, sadat de mearderheid fan 'e mienskip beslist. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 9 jun 2016, 21.34 (CEST)
It foarstel is:
De Wikipedy nimt de advizen fan 'e Fryske Akademy oer de stavering fan 'e û/oe-klank yn lannenammen oer (foar titels fan siden en kategoryen). De nammen 'Kûweit' en 'Ukraïne' wurde weromset nei 'Koeweit' en 'Oekraïne', en alle oare lannenammen mei in û/oe-klank behâlde de hjoeddeiske foarm.
- It is myn foarstel; ik bin fansels foar. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 9 jun 2016, 21.34 (CEST)
- De Wikipedy nimt de advizen fan 'e Fryske Akademy oer de stavering fan 'e û/oe-klank yn lannenammen oer. Drewes (oerlis) 9 jun 2016, 22.31 (CEST)
- Ik haw net sa folle ferstân fan de stavering. Myn staveringshifker jout altiten in protte reade streekjes, dat ik kin mar better blanko stimme. It foarstel liket my net ûnreedlik ta. Sizze jim it mar. --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 10 jun 2016, 11.47 (CEST)
- --Geoffrey (oerlis) 11 jun 2016, 09.46 (CEST)
- Hoewol't ik de stavering sels leaver oars sjen soe (alles mei û), stim ik foar it foarstel. Tanke wol foar it útsykjen. Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 18 jun 2016, 18.28 (CEST)
- Oer twa jier steane de nammen "Kuweit en Ukraïne" sa yn de Dikke van Dale. Dan moat krekt as by Uganda, Sûdan ensfh. alles wer op 'e nij. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 1 jul 2016, 16.03 (CEST)
No, we binne fan 'e wike twa moannen fierder; ik tink dat in elk dy't hjir oer meiprate woe, dêr no rom de tiid foar hân hat. De útslach is dúdlik. Ik sil sjen dat Koeweit en de Oekraïne fan 'e simmer noch oanpast wurde.Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 4 aug 2016, 18.14 (CEST)
- Ik doch it fierders wol, Fan 'e Esk. Us bot mei graach wurdsjes fretten. ;-) Sa klear. --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 4 aug 2016, 19.26 (CEST)
- Ek goed. Koeweit is yn prinsipe klear. De Oekraïne moat noch. Mar de Oekraynske kategoryen moet ik sels dochs even oer gear, want dat is hânmjittich wurk, mei de omsettings fan trochwizings en de feroarings fan 'e Wikidata-keppelings. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 4 aug 2016, 20.40 (CEST)
- Bedoele jo it omneamen of in oare yndieling? At de kategoryen net skoattele binne, kin it omneamen ek automatysk dwaan wurde foar it bewurkjen fan de artikels. --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 4 aug 2016, 21.31 (CEST)
- Ek goed. Koeweit is yn prinsipe klear. De Oekraïne moat noch. Mar de Oekraynske kategoryen moet ik sels dochs even oer gear, want dat is hânmjittich wurk, mei de omsettings fan trochwizings en de feroarings fan 'e Wikidata-keppelings. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 4 aug 2016, 20.40 (CEST)
Wikipedia to the Moon: voting has begun
[boarne bewurkje]Hello, after six weeks of community discussion about Wikipedia to the Moon, there are now 10 different proposals for content for the mission. Starting today, you can vote for them on Meta-Wiki, and decide what we will work on: a Wikipedia canon, different lists, the Moon in 300 languages, an astronomy editathon, featured articles, articles about technology, endangered things, or DNA-related topics. You can even vote against community involvement. Voting is open until 24 June. Sorry that this message is again in English only, but we are using village pumps to reach as many communities as possible, so that everyone knows they can vote. Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 10 jun 2016, 17.31 (CEST)
Oproep sprekers WCN
[boarne bewurkje]Beste mensen, de Wikimedia Conferentie Nederland vindt in 2016 op 19 november plaats. We verwachten weer zo'n 100+ deelnemers die naar Utrecht zullen komen. Heb je een idee voor het programma? Denk je al aan een lezing, een discussiegroep of een andere bijdrage over een onderwerp dat je boeit? Kijk dan naar onze oproep voor sprekers. Ziko (oerlis) 14 jun 2016, 12.53 (CEST)
It wurk fan Swarte Kees
[boarne bewurkje]Bêste minsken, earder waard Swarte Kees hjirwei njidde. Klear, it is net oars. Mar is it no nedich dat de hear au.. no de yndielings dy't Swarte Kees foar it fûgelryk makke hat finaal ombout, sadat se by syn beheining passe. Boppedat is der in soad wurk ferset troch û.o. Pier en mij om de nije stavering 2015 te yntegrearjen. En dyselde hellet no linkendewei de ferwizings - oppere troch Mischa as kompromis - wer út de teksten wei. De hear au.. sil myn akkount no wol wer blokkearje tink ik. Yn 'e Wâlden (oerlis) 30 jun 2016, 12.42 (CEST)
- It is al tryst dat ien op sa'n manier alles byelkoar lige moat. Swarte Kees haw ik nea kennen; dy wie hjir al wei doe't ik der by kaam. De yndieling fan 'e fûgels dy't Swarte Kees (en oaren) makke hiene, wie foar in part net goed yndield en foar in oar part ynhelle troch nije ynsichten. Ik haw my by dizze yndieling (dêr't ik trouwens in bealchfol wurk oan hân haw) basearre op 'e Ingelske wikipedy, dêr't soks byholden wurdt. De stavering fan 'e artikels bin ik hielendal net oan west, dus syn ûnfoege praatsjes kin meidogger Yn 'e Wâlden foar him hâlde. Ik haw inkeld de reklame foar Yn 'e Wâlden syn eigen side oer de staveringsferoaring fuorthelle yn artikels dy't dêr yn it foarste plak neat mei te krijen hawwe en dêr't it boppedat foar de lêzer betiizjend wurket. It sil meidogger Yn 'e Wâlden troch syn eigen fiksaasje op dit ûnderwerp wol ûntgien wêze, mar net ien dy't bûten de Wikipedy de nije stavering brûkt. Lês de kranten mar, it is allegear 'droech' en 'ieu'. Der is earder al ferskate kearen tsjin dizze man sein dat er der in noat of in kategory fan meitsje moat as er beslist trochwize wol nei syn side, mar dat ferhipt er. Dan moat er ek net raar opsjen as syn ûnsinnige links derút smiten wurde.
- Oer de nije beneaming dy't meidogger Yn 'e Wâlden foar my betocht hat, sil ik it mar net hawwe; dat sprekt foar himsels, en dêr sille konsekwinsjes op folgje. Der wurdt neat oars fan dizze man frege as dat er him oan 'e regels fan 'e Wikipedy hâldt, dat er oerleit oer fierstrekkende dingen foar't er syn sin trochdriuwt, dat er him derby delleit as de mearderheid fan 'e Wikipedymienskip it oars sjocht as hy, en dat er de algemien jildende fatsoensnoarmen yn acht nimt. Dat is blykber tefolle frege foar him. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 3 jul 2016, 22.07 (CEST)
Compact Links coming soon to this wiki
[boarne bewurkje]Please help translate to your language
Hello, I wanted to give a heads up about an upcoming feature for this wiki which you may seen already in Tech News. Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). This will be enabled as a feature in the coming week for all users, which can be turned on or off using a preference setting. We look forward to your feedback and please do let us know if you have any questions. Details about Compact Language Links can be read in the project documentation.
Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this message and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. The main announcement can also be translated on this page. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-1 jul 2016, 14.57 (CEST)
Wikipedia to the Moon: invitation to edit
[boarne bewurkje]Three weeks ago, you were invited to vote on how to take Wikipedia articles to the Moon. Community voting is over and the winning idea is to send all ‘’featured articles and lists’’ to the Moon. This decision means that, starting today, Wikipedians from all language communities are warmly invited to intensively work on their best articles and lists, and submit them to Wikipedia to the Moon. The central site to coordinate between communities will be Meta-Wiki. You will find an overview and more information there. Hopefully, we will be able to represent as many languages as possible, to show Wikipedia’s diversity. Please feel kindly invited to edit on behalf of your community and tell us about your work on featured content!
Best, Moon team at Wikimedia Deutschland 1 jul 2016, 16.10 (CEST)
Editing News #2—2016
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for Arabic and Indic scripts, and adapting the visual editor to the needs of the Wikivoyages and Wikisources.
Recent changes
[boarne bewurkje]The visual editor is now available to all users at most Wikivoyages. It was also enabled for all contributors at the French Wikinews.
The single edit tab feature combines the "Bewurkje" and "Boarne bewurkje" tabs into a single "Bewurkje" tab. It has been deployed to several Wikipedias, including Hungarian, Polish, English and Japanese Wikipedias, as well as to all Wikivoyages. At these wikis, you can change your settings for this feature in the "Bewurkjen" tab of Special:Preferences. The team is now reviewing the feedback and considering ways to improve the design before rolling it out to more people.
Future changes
[boarne bewurkje]The "Side bewarje" button will say "Side publisearje". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next few months. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including: Arabic, Hindi, Thai, Tamil, Marathi, Malayalam, Urdu, Persian, Bengali, Assamese, Aramaic and others.
The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)
The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.
Let's work together
[boarne bewurkje]- Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
- Learn how to improve the "automagical" citoid referencing system in the visual editor, by creating Zotero translators for popular sources in your language! Watch the Tech Talk by Sebastian Karcher for more information.
If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
m:User:Elitre (WMF), 3 jul 2016, 19.20 (CEST)
Open call for Project Grants
[boarne bewurkje]Please help translate to your language:
- Greetings! The Project Grants program is accepting proposals from July 1st to August 2nd to fund new tools, research, offline outreach (including editathon series, workshops, etc), online organizing (including contests), and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers.
- Whether you need a small or large amount of funds, Project Grants can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.
- Submit a grant request or draft your proposal in IdeaLab
- Get help with your proposal in an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants or Project and Event Grants
- Also accepting candidates to join the Project Grants Committee through July 15.
- With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) 5 jul 2016, 17.25 (CEST)
Compact Language Links enabled in this wiki today
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Compact Language Links has been available as a beta-feature on all Wikimedia wikis since 2014. With compact language links enabled, users are shown a much shorter list of languages on the interlanguage link section of an article (see image). Based on several factors, this shorter list of languages is expected to be more relevant for them and valuable for finding similar content in a language known to them. More information about compact language links can be found in the documentation.
From today onwards, compact language links has been enabled as the default listing of interlanguage links on this wiki. However, using the button at the bottom, you will be able to see a longer list of all the languages the article has been written in. The setting for this compact list can be changed by using the checkbox under User Preferences -> Appearance -> Languages
The compact language links feature has been tested extensively by the Wikimedia Language team, which developed it. However, in case there are any problems or other feedback please let us know on the project talk page. It is to be noted that on some wikis the presence of an existing older gadget that was used for a similar purpose may cause an interference for compact language list. We would like to bring this to the attention of the admins of this wiki. Full details are on this phabricator ticket (in English).
Due to the large scale enablement of this feature, we have had to use MassMessage for this announcement and as a result it is only written in English. We will really appreciate if this message can be translated for other users of this wiki. Thank you. On behalf of the Wikimedia Language team: Runa Bhattacharjee (WMF) (talk)-8 jul 2016, 05.03 (CEST)
Muiderberg of Muiderberch?
[boarne bewurkje]Moat it no Muiderberg of Muiderberch wêze yn it Frysk, foar it plak yn Noard-Hollân? Yn it Nedersaksysk soe ik Muderbarg of sels Mujerbarg sizze. Servien (oerlis) 8 jul 2016, 21.39 (CEST)
- Goed punt. It is altyd de fraach hoefier't men gean moat mei ferfryskjen. Om my mei it 'Muiderberch' wurde, temear om't it hjir om in plak yn Nederlân giet en it sa maklik te ferfryskjen is. Mar 'Muiderberg', dêr lis ik ek net wekker fan. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 8 jul 2016, 22.33 (CEST)
- Ik soe ek leaver Muiderberch sjen, fral om't oare plakken yn omkriten ek ferfryske binne (b.g. Widemarren, Goaise Marren, ensf.). Servien (oerlis) 8 jul 2016, 23.40 (CEST)
- Ik haw ek gjin beswier tsjin Muiderberch, mar wol tsjin Goaise Marren. Ik soe ek leaver Goaiske Marren sjenDrewes (oerlis) 9 jul 2016, 00.23 (CEST)
- Ik soe ek leaver Muiderberch sjen, fral om't oare plakken yn omkriten ek ferfryske binne (b.g. Widemarren, Goaise Marren, ensf.). Servien (oerlis) 8 jul 2016, 23.40 (CEST)
Save/Publish
[boarne bewurkje]The Editing team is planning to change the name of the “Side bewarje” button to “Side publisearje” and “Feroarings publisearje”. “Side publisearje” will be used when you create a new page. “Feroarings publisearje” will be used when you change an existing page. The names will be consistent in all editing environments.[1][2]
This change will probably happen during the week of 30 August 2016. The change will be announced in Tech News when it happens.
If you are fluent in a language other than English, please check the status of translations at translatewiki.net for “Side publisearje” and “Feroarings publisearje”.
The main reason for this change is to avoid confusion for new editors. Repeated user research studies with new editors have shown that some new editors believed that “Side bewarje” would save a private copy of a new page in their accounts, rather than permanently publishing their changes on the web. It is important for this part of the user interface to be clear, since it is difficult to remove public information after it is published. We believe that the confusion caused by the “Side bewarje” button increases the workload for experienced editors, who have to clean up the information that people unintentionally disclose, and report it to the functionaries and stewards to suppress it. Clarifying what the button does will reduce this problem.
Beyond that, the goal is to make all the wikis and languages more consistent, and some wikis made this change many years ago. The Legal team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports this change. Making the edit interface easier to understand will make it easier to handle licensing and privacy questions that may arise.
Any help pages or other basic documentation about how to edit pages will also need to be updated, on-wiki and elsewhere. On wiki pages, you can use the wikitext codes {{int:Publishpage}}
and {{int:Publishchanges}}
to display the new labels in the user's preferred language. For the language settings in your account preferences, these wikitext codes produce “Side publisearje” and “Feroarings publisearje”.
Please share this news with community members who teach new editors and with others who may be interested.
Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 9 aug 2016, 20.03 (CEST)
New Wikipedia Library accounts available now (August 2016)
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Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our publisher donation program. You can now sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
- Nomos – Primarily German-language publisher of law and social sciences books and journals - 25 accounts
- World Scientific – Scientific, technical, and medical journals - 50 accounts
- Edinburgh University Press – Humanities and social sciences journals - 25 accounts
- American Psychological Association – Psychology books and journals - 10 accounts
- Emerald – Journals on a range of topics including business, education, health care, and engineering - 10 accounts
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, EBSCO, DeGruyter, Gale and Newspaperarchive.com.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 30 aug 2016, 20.38 (CEST)
- You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language! Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
RevisionSlider
[boarne bewurkje]Birgit Müller (WMDE) 12 sep 2016, 17.08 (CEST)
My mother is Frisian. She would like to have the history of Fryslan by Douwe Kalma, in Frisian. Does anyone know where I could by it for her? Tanke vol!
[boarne bewurkje]--50.177.29.76 20 sep 2016, 18.11 (CEST)
Try this link: [3] Ieneach fan 'e Esk (oerlis) 2 nov 2016, 13.57 (CET)
Grants to improve your project
[boarne bewurkje]Please help translate to your language:
Greetings! The Project Grants program is currently accepting proposals for funding. There is just over a week left to submit before the October 11 deadline. If you have ideas for software, offline outreach, research, online community organizing, or other projects that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers, start your proposal today! Please encourage others who have great ideas to apply as well. Support is available if you want help turning your idea into a grant request.
- Submit a grant request
- Get help: In IdeaLab or an upcoming Hangout session
- Learn from examples of completed Individual Engagement Grants or Project and Event Grants
I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 30 sep 2016, 22.11 (CEST)
Creative Commons 4.0
[boarne bewurkje]Hello! I'm writing from the Wikimedia Foundation to invite you to give your feedback on a proposed move from CC BY-SA 3.0 to a CC BY-SA 4.0 license across all Wikimedia projects. The consultation will run from October 5 to November 8, and we hope to receive a wide range of viewpoints and opinions. Please, if you are interested, take part in the discussion on Meta-Wiki.
Apologies that this message is only in English. This message can be read and translated in more languages here. Joe Sutherland (talk) 6 okt 2016, 03.34 (CEST)
Editing News #3—2016
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has mainly worked on a new wikitext editor. They have also released some small features and the new map editing tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the list of work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, releasing the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving language support.
Recent changes
[boarne bewurkje]- You can now set text as small or big.[4]
- Invisible templates have been shown as a puzzle icon. Now, the name of the invisible template is displayed next to the puzzle icon.[5] A similar feature will display the first part of hidden HTML comments.[6]
- Categories are displayed at the bottom of each page. If you click on the categories, the dialog for editing categories will open.[7]
- At many wikis, you can now add maps to pages. Go to the Insert menu and choose the "Maps" item. The Discovery department is adding more features to this area, like geoshapes. You can read more at mediawiki.org.[8]
- The "Save" button now says "Save page" when you create a page, and "Save changes" when you change an existing page.[9] In the future, the "Side bewarje" button will say "Side publisearje". This will affect both the visual and wikitext editing systems. More information is available on Meta.
- Image galleries now use a visual mode for editing. You can see thumbnails of the images, add new files, remove unwanted images, rearrange the images by dragging and dropping, and add captions for each image. Use the "Options" tab to set the gallery's display mode, image sizes, and add a title for the gallery.[10]
Future changes
[boarne bewurkje]The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.
The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.
Let's work together
[boarne bewurkje]- Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
15 okt 2016, 19.49 (CEST)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (November 2016)
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Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
- Foreign Affairs - Journal of international relations and U.S. foreign policy
- OpenEdition - Journals in the social sciences and humanities
- Édition Diffusion Presse Sciences - French and English language scientific journals
- ASHA - Speech–language–hearing journals
- Tilastopaja - Athletics statistics
Expansions
- ' - Many new databases added
- Taylor & Francis - Strategic, Defence & Security Studies collection
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page. Sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 1 nov 2016, 19.30 (CET)
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Password reset
[boarne bewurkje]I apologise that this message is in English. ⧼Centralnotice-shared-help-translate⧽
We are having a problem with attackers taking over wiki accounts with privileged user rights (for example, admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, checkusers). It appears that this may be because of weak or reused passwords.
Community members are working along with members of multiple teams at the Wikimedia Foundation to address this issue.
In the meantime, we ask that everyone takes a look at the passwords they have chosen for their wiki accounts. If you know that you've chosen a weak password, or if you've chosen a password that you are using somewhere else, please change those passwords.
Select strong passwords – eight or more characters long, and containing letters, numbers, and punctuation. Joe Sutherland (oerlis) / MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 14 nov 2016, 00.59 (CET)
Adding to the above section (Password reset)
[boarne bewurkje]Please accept my apologies - that first line should read "Help with translations!". Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) / MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 14 nov 2016, 01.11 (CET)
New way to edit wikitext
[boarne bewurkje]Summary: There's a new opt-in Beta Feature of a wikitext mode for the visual editor. Please go try it out.
We in the Wikimedia Foundation's Editing department are responsible for making editing better for all our editors, new and experienced alike. We've been slowly improving the visual editor based on feedback, user tests, and feature requests. However, that doesn't work for all our user needs: whether you need to edit a wikitext talk page, create a template, or fix some broken reference syntax, sometimes you need to use wikitext, and many experienced editors prefer it.
Consequently, we've planned a "wikitext mode" for the visual editor for a long time. It provides as much of the visual editor's features as possible, for those times that you need or want wikitext. It has the same user interface as the visual editor, including the same toolbar across the top with the same buttons. It provides access to the citoid service for formatting citations, integrated search options for inserting images, and the ability to add new templates in a simple dialog. Like in the visual editor, if you paste in formatted text copied from another page, then formatting (such as bolding) will automatically be converted into wikitext.
All wikis now have access to this mode as a Beta Feature. When enabled, it replaces your existing wikitext editor everywhere. If you don't like it, you can reverse this at any time by turning off the Beta Feature in your preferences. We don't want to surprise anyone, so it's strictly an opt-in-only Beta Feature. It won't switch on automatically for anyone, even if you have previously checked the box to "Bêtafunksjes ornaris automatysk ynskeakelje".
The new wikitext edit mode is based on the visual editor, so it requires JavaScript (as does the current wikitext editor). It doesn't work with gadgets that have only been designed for the older one (and vice versa), so some users will miss gadgets they find important. We're happy to work with gadget authors to help them update their code to work with both editors. We're not planning to get rid of the current main wikitext editor on desktop in the foreseeable future. We're also not going to remove the existing ability to edit plain wikitext without JavaScript. Finally, though it should go without saying, if you prefer to continue using the current wikitext editor, then you may so do.
This is an early version, and we'd love to know what you think so we can make it better. Please leave feedback about the new mode on the feedback page. You may write comments in any language. Thank you.
James Forrester (Product Manager, Editing department, Wikimedia Foundation) --14 des 2016, 20.31 (CET)
Cornelis Botke, Frysk skilder?
[boarne bewurkje]Cornelis Botke, Frysk skilder? https://www.annexgalleries.com/artists/biography/243/Botke/Cornelis
- Moaie fynst... http://corneliusbotke.com/ (fia: https://rkd.nl/nl/explore/artists/11248 )
- http://www.artindex.nl/friesland/default.asp?id=6&num=0477900087019010143290177005830950501441&in=Cornelis+Botke
- De frou: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_Arms_Botke --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 13 jan 2017, 14.40 (CET)
Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process
[boarne bewurkje]Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.
The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.
This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.
The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.
Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.
Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:
- Update 1 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (15 December 2016)
- Introduction to process and information about budget spending resolution to support it
- Update 2 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (23 December 2016)
- Start of search for Lead Architect for movement strategy process
- Update 3 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (8 January 2017)
- Plans for strategy sessions at upcoming Wikimedia Conference 2017
- Update 4 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (11 January 2017)
- Introduction of williamsworks
- Update 5 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (2 February 2017)
- The core movement strategy team, team tracks being developed, introduction of the Community Process Steering Committee, discussions at WikiIndaba conference 2017 and the Wikimedia movement affiliates executive directors gathering in Switzerland
- Update 6 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (10 February 2017)
- Tracks A & B process prototypes and providing feedback, updates on development of all four Tracks
More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.
Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 15 feb 2017, 21.31 (CET) • Please help translate to your language • Get help
Farske siden
[boarne bewurkje]Ik bin dwaande in skriptke te testen, dat deistich nei 00:01 CET/CEST en 00:01 GMT siden mei datum-sjabloanen automatysk ferfarsket. Dat jout in bettere yndruk tink. Jo kinne dat sjen (at jo net ynlogd binne) yn Firefox ûnder Ekstra -> Side-ynfo, 'Wizige:', en de ynhâld fan 'e side is by de tiid. Bg. de datum op 'e haadside kloppet. Yn de lochs op 'e Wikipedy is it net te sjen.
Lêzers dy't net oanmeld binne, kinne oars op in ferâldere 'cache'-ferzje telâne komme. It ferskil tusken de cache en nijste ferzje kin mear as in wike wêze.
De folgjende siden haw ik no op 'e list stean: CE(S)T foar de {{LOCAL...}}, GMT foar {{CURRENT...}}-sjabloanen
- deistich, CE(S)T
- Haadside
- Tema:Fryslân
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Alles
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/April
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Augustus
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Desimber
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Febrewaris
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Jannewaris
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/July
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Juny
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Maaie
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Maart
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Novimber
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Oktober
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Septimber
- deistich, GMT
- wykliks, GMT
- moanliks, CE(S)T
- moanliks, GMT
- jierliks, GMT
- 1_jannewaris
- 2_jannewaris
- 3_jannewaris
- 4_jannewaris
- 5_jannewaris
- 6_jannewaris
- 7_jannewaris
- 8_jannewaris
- 9_jannewaris
- 10_jannewaris
- 11_jannewaris
- 12_jannewaris
- 13_jannewaris
- 14_jannewaris
- 15_jannewaris
- Jannewaris
- Jierskema
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei
- Tema:Fryslân/Op_dizze_dei/Jannewaris
- Wikipedy:Haadside-ynfo/In_dei_yn_de_histoarje/Jannewaris
--PiefPafPier (oerlis) 17 feb 2017, 12.57 (CET)
Oanf. --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 24 apr 2017, 12.25 (CEST)
Yn 'e Wâlden en It Nijs
[boarne bewurkje]Minsken, ik lies krekt dit berjocht. Op Wikipedia haw ik socht, mar ik koe tusken alle komoasje net ta de direkte kearn fan it probleem komme. Kin immen my koart útlizze wat Yn 'e Wâlden woe? Dit hie dochs oarspronklik wat mei stavering út te stean? Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 19 feb 2017, 16.08 (CET)
Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process
[boarne bewurkje]Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.
As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.
Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.
Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:
- Update 7 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (16 February 2017)
- Development of documentation for Tracks A & B
- Update 8 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (24 February 2017)
- Introduction of Track Leads for all four audience tracks
- Update 9 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (2 March 2017)
- Seeking feedback on documents being used to help facilitate upcoming community discussions
More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.
Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 9 mrt 2017, 20.43 (CET) • Please help translate to your language • Get help
We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)
[boarne bewurkje]- This message, "We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)", was sent through multiple channels by Gregory Varnum on 15 and 16 of March 2017 to village pumps, affiliate talk pages, movement mailing lists, and MassMessage groups. A similar message was sent by Nicole Ebber to organized groups and their mailing lists on 15 of March 2017. This version of the message is available for translation and documentation purposes
Dear Wikimedians/Wikipedians:
Today we are starting a broad discussion to define Wikimedia's future role in the world and develop a collaborative strategy to fulfill that role. You are warmly invited to join the conversation.
There are many ways to participate, by joining an existing conversation or starting your own:
Track A (organized groups): Discussions with your affiliate, committee or other organized group (these are groups that support the Wikimedia movement).
Track B (individual contributors): On Meta or your local language or project wiki.
This is the first of three conversations, and it will run between now and April 15. The purpose of cycle 1 is to discuss the future of the movement and generate major themes around potential directions. What do we want to build or achieve together over the next 15 years?
We welcome you, as we create this conversation together, and look forward to broad and diverse participation from all parts of our movement.
- Find out more about the movement strategy process
- Learn more about volunteering to be a Discussion Coordinator
Sincerely,
Nicole Ebber (Track A Lead), Jaime Anstee (Track B Lead), & the engagement support teams18 mrt 2017, 06.10 (CET)
Publish Changes
[boarne bewurkje]By it bewurkjen wurdt my no ynienen "Publish changes" foarstelt, of by in nije side "Publish page". Ik nim oan dat it in allemachtich grutte ferbettering west hat, mar kin immen it Ferfryskje? "Side fêstlizze" en allinnich "Fêstlizze", of soks? Mysha (oerlis)
- Klear --> https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Publishpage/fy :-)
- Tank. Mar ik kin it skynber net sels dwaan. Dat de oare op https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Publishchanges/fy kin ik net feroarje ta "Fêstlizze" of soks. Mysha (oerlis)
- Goeie Mysha. Jo kinne dêr in aparte ynloch oanmeitsje. Ik haw dat ferline jier dien mei it omstaverjen. Der moatte ek in pear test-oersettings dien wurde. Ik haw net folle oerset, mar de oersettings binne hjir nei in pear dagen te sjen. --PiefPafPier (oerlis) 5 apr 2017, 14.34 (CEST)
- Tank. Mar ik kin it skynber net sels dwaan. Dat de oare op https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Publishchanges/fy kin ik net feroarje ta "Fêstlizze" of soks. Mysha (oerlis)
Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.
The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.
The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).
We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.
Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.
The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.
The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.
- April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
- April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
- April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
- May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
- May 15–19 – Board vote checking
- May 20 – Board result announcement goal
In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:
- Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
- There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
- Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
- One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.
More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-electionswikimedia.org.
On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation
Read-only mode for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May
[boarne bewurkje]Read this message in another language • Please help translate to your language
The Wikimedia Foundation will be testing its secondary data center in Dallas. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to conduct a planned test. This test will show whether they can reliably switch from one data center to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic to the secondary data center on Wednesday, 19 April 2017. On Wednesday, 3 May 2017, they will switch back to the primary data center.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop during those two switches. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for approximately 20 to 30 minutes on Wednesday, 19 April and Wednesday, 3 May. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Thursday 20 April and Thursday 4 May).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- There will be code freezes for the weeks of 17 April 2017 and 1 May 2017. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. Please share this information with your community. /User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)
MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 11 apr 2017, 19.34 (CEST)
Wikidata description editing in the Wikipedia Android app
[boarne bewurkje]Wikidata description editing is a new experiment being rolled out on the Wikipedia app for Android. While this primarily impacts Wikidata, the changes are also addressing a concern about the mobile versions of Wikipedia, so that mobile users will be able to edit directly the descriptions shown under the title of the page and in the search results.
We began by rolling out this feature several weeks ago to a pilot group of Wikipedias (Russian, Hebrew, and Catalan), and have seen very positive results including numerous quality contributions in the form of new and updated descriptions, and a low rate of vandalism.
We are now ready for the next phase of rolling out this feature, which is to enable it in a few days for all Wikipedias except the top ten by usage within the app (i.e. except English, German, Italian, French, Spanish, Japanese, Dutch, Portuguese, Turkish, and Chinese). We will enable the feature for those languages instead at some point in the future, as we closely monitor user engagement with our expanded set of pilot communities. As always, if have any concerns, please reach out to us on wiki at the talk page for this project or by email at reading@wikimedia.org. Thanks!
New Page previews feature
[boarne bewurkje]New Page previews feature
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Hello,
The Reading web team at the Wikimedia Foundation has been working to enable Page previews, a beta feature known previously as Hovercards, as opt-in behavior for logged-in users and the default behavior for logged-out users across Wikipedia projects. Page previews provide a preview of any linked article, giving readers a quick understanding of a related article without leaving the current page. For this project, we are expecting to collect feedback over the following few weeks and tentatively enable the feature in early May, 2017.
A quick note on the implementation:
- For logged-in users who are not currently testing out the beta feature, Page previews will be off by default. Users may turn them on from their user preferences page.
- For logged-out users, the feature will be on by default. Users may disable it at any time by selecting the setting cog available in each preview.
- For users of the Navigation popups gadget, you will not be able to turn on the Page previews feature while using navigational popups. If you would like to try out the Page preview feature, make sure to first turn Navigation popups off prior to turning Page previews on.
You can read more about the feature and the tests we used to evaluate performance, try it out by enabling it from the beta features page, and leave feedback or questions on the talk page.
Thank you, MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 19 apr 2017, 18.52 (CEST)
ten westen fan ensfh.
[boarne bewurkje]De foarm "ten westen fan" wurdt yn it Frysk skreaun as "bewesten" en dan sûnder fan. Dy flater komt yn de Wikipedy safolle foar dat Pier dêr ris mei de robot bydel moatte soe! Spûk fan in Wâldman
- "West fan" mei ek. Drewes (oerlis) 25 apr 2017, 17.15 (CEST)
- Jawis, mar "ten" komt selsstannich yn it Frysk net foar.
- De fariant dy't wy it measte brûke yn 'e sprektaal is "westlik fan". Groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 2 maa 2017, 16.51 (CEST)
- Jawis, mar "ten" komt selsstannich yn it Frysk net foar.
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2017)
[boarne bewurkje]Hello Wikimedians!
The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:
- American Psychiatric Association – Psychiatry books and journals
- Bloomsbury – Who's Who, Drama Online, Berg Fashion Library, and Whitaker's
- Gaudeamus – Finnish humanities and social sciences
- Ympäristö-lehti – The Finnish Environment Institute's Ympäristö-lehti magazine
Expansions
- Gale – Biography In Context database added
- Adam Matthew – all 53 databases now available
Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, EBSCO, Taylor & Francis and Newspaperarchive.com.
Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 2 maa 2017, 20.52 (CEST)
- You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Aaron.
- This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.
Voting has begun for eligible voters in the 2017 elections for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees.
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees is the ultimate governing authority of the Wikimedia Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization registered in the United States. The Wikimedia Foundation manages many diverse projects such as Wikipedia and Commons.
The voting phase lasts from 00:00 UTC May 1 to 23:59 UTC May 14. Click here to vote. More information on the candidates and the elections can be found on the 2017 Board of Trustees election page on Meta-Wiki.
On behalf of the Elections Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation
3 maa 2017, 21.14 (CEST)
Beta Feature Two Column Edit Conflict View
[boarne bewurkje]Birgit Müller (WMDE) 8 maa 2017, 16.41 (CEST)
Editing News #1—2017
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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.
Recent changes
[boarne bewurkje]- A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the ⧼Visualeditor-preference-newwikitexteditor-label⧽.
- A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [11]
- The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The
<references />
block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [12] - You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [13]
- The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [14]
- The Kategoryen item has been moved to the top of the Side-opsjes menu (from clicking on the "hamburger" icon) for quicker access. [15] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [16]
- You can now create
<chem>
tags (sometimes used as<ce>
) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [17] - Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [18]
- The Spesjaal teken menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [19]
- A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [20]
- There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations:
Control
+Shift
+K
on a PC, orCommand
+Shift
+K
on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which isControl
+K
orCommand
+K
respectively. [21]
Future changes
[boarne bewurkje]- The team is working on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of
<ref>
tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [22] - The kind of button used to Earst oerlêze, Ferskillen besjen, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding
&ooui=1
to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [23] - The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [24]
- If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
12 maa 2017, 20.05 (CEST)
Prototype for editing Wikidata infoboxes on Wikipedia
[boarne bewurkje]Hello,
I’m sorry for writing in English. It’d be great if someone could translate this message if necessary.
One of the most requested features for Wikidata is to enable editing of Wikidata’s data directly from Wikipedia, so the editors can continue their workflow without switching websites.
The Wikidata development team has been working on a tool to achieve this goal: fill and edit the Wikipedia infoboxes with information from Wikidata, directly on Wikipedia, via the Visual Editor.
We already asked for feedback in 2015, and collected some interesting ideas which we shared with you in this thesis. Now we would like to present to you our first prototype and collect your feedback, in order to improve and continue the development of this feature.
We present this work to you very early, so we can include your feedback before and all along the development. You are the core users of this feature, so we want to make sure that it fits your needs and editing processes.
You will find the prototype, description of the features, and a demo video, on this page. Feel free to add any comment or feedback on the talk page. The page is currently not translated in every languages, but you can add your contribution by helping to translate it.
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to follow all the discussions on Wikipedia, so if you want to be sure that your feedback is read, please add it on the Wikidata page, in your favorite language. Thanks for your understanding.
Thanks, Lea Lacroix (WMDE)
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[boarne bewurkje]Birgit Müller (WMDE) 16 maa 2017, 16.44 (CEST)
Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)
[boarne bewurkje]The Wikimedia movement strategy core team and working groups have completed reviewing the more than 1800 thematic statements we received from the first discussion. They have identified 5 themes that were consistent across all the conversations - each with their own set of sub-themes. These are not the final themes, just an initial working draft of the core concepts.
You are invited to join the online and offline discussions taking place on these 5 themes. This round of discussions will take place between now and June 12th. You can discuss as many as you like; we ask you to participate in the ones that are most (or least) important to you.
Here are the five themes, each has a page on Meta-Wiki with more information about the theme and how to participate in that theme's discussion:
- Healthy, Inclusive Communities
- The Augmented Age
- A Truly Global Movement
- The Most Respected Source of Knowledge
- Engaging in the Knowledge Ecosystem
On the movement strategy portal on Meta-Wiki, you can find more information about each of these themes, their discussions, and how to participate.
Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation • Please help translate to your language • Get help16 maa 2017, 23.09 (CEST)
New notification when a page is connected to Wikidata
[boarne bewurkje]Hello all,
(Please help translate to your language)
The Wikidata development team is about to deploy a new feature on all Wikipedias. It is a new type of notification (via Echo, the notification system you see at the top right of your wiki when you are logged in), that will inform the creator of a page, when this page is connected to a Wikidata item.
You may know that Wikidata provides a centralized system for all the interwikilinks. When a new page is created, it should be connected to the corresponding Wikidata item, by modifying this Wikidata item. With this new notification, editors creating pages will be informed when another editor connects this page to Wikidata.
This feature will be deployed on May 30th on all the Wikipedias, excepting English, French and German. This feature will be disable by default for existing editors, and enabled by default for new editors.
This is the first step of the deployments, the Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects will follow in the next months.
If you have any question, suggestion, please let me know by pinging me. You can also follow and leave a comment on the Phabricator ticket.
Thanks go to Matěj Suchánek who developed this feature!
Thank you! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)
m:Requests for comment/Global centralnotice for the blockade of the Turkish government
[boarne bewurkje]Hi, you are invited to participate in the discussion on the proposal to make a banner through m: centralnotice to inform more people around the world about what the Turkish government has done about Wikipedia, ie all the language versions of Wikipedia are You are obscured, so in Turkey it is impossible to view the * .wikipedia.org site. To hope that the Turkish government will remove the block, it is necessary to raise awareness of this fact around the world because it is important to succeed in this mission because Wikipedia can not be seen in Turkey. With this message also for those interested, I invite him to sign the Wikimedian appeal.
If you have any questions or questions do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks best regards. --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 22 maa 2017, 22.58 (CEST)
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, we are pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee and Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson elections. Please read the letter from the Wikimedia Foundation calling for candidates at on the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation elections portal.
Funds Dissemination Committee
The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) makes recommendations about how to allocate Wikimedia movement funds to eligible entities. There are five positions being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC elections page.
Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson
The Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson receives complaints and feedback about the FDC process, investigates complaints at the request of the Board of Trustees, and summarizes the investigations and feedback for the Board of Trustees on an annual basis. One position is being filled. More information about this role can be found at the FDC Ombudsperson elections page.
The candidacy submission phase will last until May 28 (23:59 UTC).
We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates until May 28. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki. Once the questions submission period has ended on May 28, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to.
The goal of this process is to fill the five community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee and the community-selected ombudsperson. The election results will be used by the Board itself to make the appointments.
The full schedule for the FDC elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.
- May 15 (00:00 UTC) – May 28 (23:59 UTC) – Nominations
- May 15 – May 28 – Candidates questions submission period
- May 29 – June 2 – Candidates answer questions
- June 3 – June 11 – Voting period
- June 12–14 – Vote checking
- June 15 – Goal date for announcing election results
More information on this year's elections can be found at the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation elections portal.
Please feel free to post a note about the election on your project's village pump. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-electionswikimedia.org.
On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation
23 maa 2017, 23.05 (CEST)
Beheardersjochten PiefPafPier
[boarne bewurkje]Bêste Wikipedianen,
Hjoed haw ik PiefPafPier beheardersrjochten jûn. Op myn oerlisside hie dizze brûker al fjouwer stimmen foar en nul tsjin. Dêrom wol ik gebrûk meitsje fan in 'stille proseduere' en gjin ekstra stimming organisearje. Mochten der al minsken wêze dy't miene dat soks al wêze moat, dan graach binnen twa wiken melde en dan sille wy fuort in stimming organisearje op dizze algemiene oerlisside. Mei freonlike groetnis --Kening Aldgilles (oerlis) 18 jun 2017, 00.34 (CEST)
Wikidata changes now also appear in enhanced recent changes
[boarne bewurkje]Hello, and sorry to write this message in English. You can help translating it.
Starting from today, you will be able to display Wikidata changes in both modes of the recent changes and the watchlist.
Read and translate the full message
Thank you! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 29 jun 2017, 10.33 (CEST)
(wrong target page? you can fix it here)
Accessible editing buttons
[boarne bewurkje]You can see and use the old and new versions now. Most editors will only notice that some buttons are slightly larger and have different colors.
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Buttons before the change
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Buttons after the change
However, this change also affects some user scripts and gadgets. Unfortunately, some of them may not work well in the new system. If you maintain any user scripts or gadgets that are used for editing, please see mw:Contributors/Projects/Accessible editing buttons for information on how to test and fix your scripts. Outdated scripts can be tested and fixed now.
This change will probably reach this wiki on Tuesday, 18 July 2017. Please leave a note at mw:Talk:Contributors/Projects/Accessible editing buttons if you need help.Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 11 jul 2017, 00.22 (CEST)
Page Previews (Hovercards) update
[boarne bewurkje]Hello,
A quick update on the progress of enabling Page Previews (previously named Hovercards) on this project. Page Previews provide a preview of any linked article, giving readers a quick understanding of a related article without leaving the current page. As mentioned in December we're preparing to remove the feature from Beta and make it the default behavior for logged-out users. We have recently made a large update to the code which fixes most outstanding bugs.
Due to some issues with our instrumentation, we delayed our deployment by a few months. We are finally ready to deploy the feature. Page Previews will be off by default and available in the user preferences page for logged-in users the week of July 24th. The feature will be on by default for current beta users and logged-out users. If you would like to preview the feature, you can enable it as a beta feature. For more information see Page Previews. Questions can be left on the talk page in your preferred language.
Thank you again.
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21 jul 2017, 00.32 (CEST)
Improved search in deleted pages archive
[boarne bewurkje]Please help translate to your language
During Wikimedia Hackathon 2016, the Discovery team worked on one of the items on the 2015 community wishlist, namely enabling searching the archive of deleted pages. This feature is now ready for production deployment, and will be enabled on all wikis, except Wikidata.
Right now, the feature is behind a feature flag - to use it on your wiki, please go to the Special:Undelete
page, and add &fuzzy=1
to the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=1. Then search for the pages you're interested in. There should be more results than before, due to using ElasticSearch indexing (via the CirrusSearch extension).
We plan to enable this improved search by default on all wikis soon (around August 1, 2017). If you have any objections to this - please raise them with the Discovery team via email or on this announcement's discussion page. Like most Mediawiki configuration parameters, the functionality can be configured per wiki.
Once the improved search becomes the default, you can still access the old mode using &fuzzy=0
in the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=0
Please note that since Special:Undelete is an admin-only feature, this search capability is also only accessible to wiki admins.
Thank you! CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 25 jul 2017, 20.39 (CEST)
RfC regarding "Interlinking of accounts involved with paid editing to decrease impersonation"
[boarne bewurkje]There is currently a RfC open on Meta regarding "requiring those involved with paid editing on Wikipedia to link on their user page to all other active accounts through which they advertise paid Wikipedia editing business."
Note this is to apply to Wikipedia and not necessarily other sister projects, this is only to apply to websites where people are specifically advertising that they will edit Wikipedia for pay and not any other personal, professional, or social media accounts a person may have.
Please comment on meta. Thanks. Send on behalf of User:Doc James.
MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 17 sep 2017, 23.06 (CEST)
Discussion on synced reading lists
[boarne bewurkje]Discussion on synced reading lists
Hello,
The Reading Infrastructure team at the Wikimedia Foundation is developing a cross-platform reading list service for the mobile Wikipedia app. Reading lists are like bookmark folders in your web browser. They allow readers using the Wikipedia app to bookmark pages into folders to read later. This includes reading offline. Reading lists do not create or alter content in any way.To create Reading Lists, app users will register an account and marked pages will be tied to that account. Reading List account preferences sync between devices. You can read the same pages on different mobile platforms (tablets, phones). This is the first time we are syncing preference data between devices in such a way. We want to hear and address concerns about privacy and data security. We also want to explain why the current watchlist system is not being adapted for this purpose.
Background
[boarne bewurkje]In 2016 the Android team replaced the simple Saved Pages feature with Reading Lists. Reading Lists allow users to bookmark pages into folders and for reading offline. The intent of this feature was to allow "syncing" of these lists for users with many devices. Due to overlap with the Gather feature and related community concerns, this part was put on hold.
The Android team has identified this lack of synching as a major area of complaint from users. They expect lists to sync. The iOS team has held off implementing Reading Lists, as syncing was seen as a "must have" for this feature. A recent technical RfC has allowed these user stories and needs to be unblocked. Initially for Android, then iOS, and with web to potentially follow.
Reading lists are private, stored as part of a user's account, not as a public wiki page. There is no sharing or publishing ability for reading lists. No planned work to make these public. The target audience are people that read Wikipedia and want to bookmark and organize that content in the app. There is a potential for the feature to be available on the web in the future.
Why not watchlists
[boarne bewurkje]Watchlists offer similar functionality to Reading Lists. The Reading Infrastructure team evaluated watchlist infrastructure before exploring other options. In general, the needs of watchlists differ from Reading Lists in a few key ways:
- Reading lists focus on Reading articles, not the monitoring of changes.
- Watchlists are focused on monitoring changes of pages/revisions.
- The Watchlist infrastructure is key to our contributor community for monitoring content changes manually and through the use of automated tools (bots). Because of these needs, expanding the scope of Watchlists to reading purposes will only make the project harder to maintain and add more constraints.
- By keeping the projects separate it is easier to scale resources. We can serve these two different audiences and prioritize the work accordingly. Reading Lists are, by their nature, less critical to the health of Wikipedia/MediaWiki.
- Multi-project support. Reading Lists are by design cross-wiki/project. Watchlists are tied to specific wikis. While there have been many discussion for making them cross-wiki, resolution is not in the near term.
More information can be found on MediaWiki.org where feedback and ideas are welcome.
Thank you
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20 sep 2017, 22.35 (CEST)
presenting the project Wikipedia Cultural Diversity Observatory and asking for a vounteer in Frysk Wikipedia
[boarne bewurkje]Hello everyone, My name is Marc Miquel and I am a researcher from Barcelona (Universitat Pompeu Fabra). While I was doing my PhD I studied whether an identity-based motivation could be important for editor participation and I analyzed content representing the editors' cultural context in 40 Wikipedia language editions. Few months later, I propose creating the Wikipedia Cultural Diversity Observatory in order to raise awareness on Wikipedia’s current state of cultural diversity, providing datasets, visualizations and statistics, and pointing out solutions to improve intercultural coverage.
I am presenting this project to a grant and I expect that the site becomes a useful tool to help communities create more multicultural encyclopaedias and bridge the content culture gap that exists across language editions (one particular type of systemic bias). For instance, this would help spreading cultural content local to Frysk Wikipedia into the rest of Wikipedia language editions, and viceversa, make Frysk Wikipedia much more multicultural. Here is the link of the project proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Wikipedia_Cultural_Diversity_Observatory_(WCDO)
I am searching for a volunteer in each language community: I still need one for the Frysk Wikipedia. If you feel like it, you can contact me at: marcmiquel *at* gmail.com I need a contact in your every community who can (1) check the quality of the cultural context article list I generate to be imported-exported to other language editions, (2) test the interface/data visualizations in their language, and (3) communicate the existance of the tool/site when ready to the language community and especially to those editors involved in projects which could use it or be aligned with it. Communicating it might not be a lot of work, but it will surely have a greater impact if done in native language! :). If you like the project, I'd ask you to endorse it in the page I provided. In any case, I will appreciate any feedback, comments,... Thanks in advance for your time! Best regards, --Marcmiquel (oerlis) 10 okt 2017, 17.03 (CEST) Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona
Changes to the global ban policy
[boarne bewurkje]New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers
[boarne bewurkje]New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers
The Readers web team will be deploying a new feature this week to make it easier to download PDF versions of articles on the mobile website.
Providing better offline functionality was one of the highlighted areas from the research done by the New Readers team in Mexico, Nigeria, and India. The teams created a prototype for mobile PDFs which was evaluated by user research and community feedback. The prototype evaluation received positive feedback and results, so development continued.
For the initial deployment, the feature will be available to Google Chrome browsers on Android. Support for other mobile browsers to come in the future. For Chrome, the feature will use the native Android print functionality. Users can choose to download a webpage as a PDF. Mobile print styles will be used for these PDFs to ensure optimal readability for smaller screens.
The feature is available starting Wednesday, Nov 15. For more information, see the project page on MediaWiki.org.
Thank you!
CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20 nov 2017, 23.07 (CET)
Monumintebuordsjes
[boarne bewurkje]Goed, ik haw dy der by setten op Stêdsgrêft, mar kinst oan de buordsjes no net sjen wêrom at it der twa binne. Dat, dy soenen klikber wêze moatte dat de minsken by de seksje oer de status útkomme. Is dêr in berjocht foar? Mysha (oerlis)
Call for Wikimania 2018 Scholarships
[boarne bewurkje]Hi all,
We wanted to inform you that scholarship applications for Wikimania 2018 which is being held in Cape Town, South Africa on July 18–22, 2018 are now being accepted. Applications are open until Monday, 22 January 2018 23:59 UTC.
Applicants will be able to apply for a partial or full scholarship. A full scholarship will cover the cost of an individual's round-trip travel, shared accommodation, and conference registration fees as arranged by the Wikimedia Foundation. A partial scholarship will cover conference registration fees and shared accommodation. Applicants will be rated using a pre-determined selection process and selection criteria established by the Scholarship Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation, who will determine which applications are successful. To learn more about Wikimania 2018 scholarships, please visit: wm2018:Scholarships.
To apply for a scholarship, fill out the multi-language application form on: https://scholarships.wikimedia.org/apply
It is highly recommended that applicants review all the material on the Scholarships page and the associated FAQ before submitting an application. If you have any questions, please contact: wikimania-scholarships at wikimedia.org or leave a message at: wm2018:Talk:Scholarships. Please help us spread the word and translate pages!
Best regards, David Richfield and Martin Rulsch for the Scholarship Committee 20 des 2017, 20.24 (CET)
User group for Military Historians
[boarne bewurkje]Greetings,
"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.
MediaWiki message delivery (oerlis) 21 des 2017, 11.46 (CET)